Tuesday, June 16, 2009

"What it's Like to Teach Black Students?"

Despite almost 50 years of large and accelerating efforts to improve the school achievement of African-American students, the gap between their achievement and that of whites and Asians remains about as large as ever.

Yet proposals for what to do about it seem basically unchanged: Spend more money and divert existing money to reduce class size and train teachers better, have more students take a rigorous college prep curriculum, work on improving self-esteem, eliminate ability-grouped classes, use cooperative-learning techniques, and reassign top teachers to schools with a high percentage of African-American students.

I have become especially doubtful about whether those approaches will work better in the future than they have in the past when I read this report from the trenches. Usually, we hear only from politicians and education leaders (who also are politicians) spouting lofty rhetoric. Occasionally, we hear of a promising program, but which never turns out to be scalable. Or we see a Hollywood movie about some amazing teacher.

We rarely, however, hear from a more typical teacher who, day to day, teaches low-achieving African-American kids. So it was with interest that I read this truly depressing account from a teacher. I've edited out a couple of unnecessarily snarky sentences, which are irrelevant to the issue. Nonetheless the essay is long yet, I believe, worth your time.)

The essay does make me feel uncomfortable because while it presents an eye-opening report from the trenches, it is just one person's report and one that feels more extreme than what I experienced when I taught in a heavily African-American school. Also, while the author made passing mention that not all Blacks behaved as he described, those comments felt, to me, too parenthetical.. Of course, many black students are high-achieving and motivated.

But I decided to post this teacher's essay on my blog for the following reason. The much-needed women's movement was triggered not just by measured academic tomes but also by passionate statements that, even though often excessively male-bashing, shone powerful light on women's plight. Similarly, I believe we need to hear passionate (even if deeply frustrated and overly drawn) reports from the trenches on this issue. For decades, we've certainly heard plenty of the lofty rhetoric from education leaders and academics yet the achievement gap remains and little new is being proposed. I hope that my posting this will make a small contribution toward a more full-dimensioned view of the problem and thus in turn, toward identifying more promising approaches and not be used to justify racist behavior toward African-Americans. That is the last thing I want.

After you read this essay, I hope you'll post your thoughts on what if any implications you believe this has for what we should do differently to better serve the needs of African-American kids, their non-African-American classmates, and in turn, the nation as a whole.

What is it Like to Teach Black Students?

by Christopher Jackson

Until recently I taught at a predominantly black high school in a southeastern state.

The mainstream press gives a hint of what conditions are like in black schools, but only a hint. Expressions journalists use like “chaotic” or “poor learning environment” or “lack of discipline” do not capture what really happens. There is nothing like the day-to-day experience of teaching black children and that is what I will try to convey.

Most whites simply do not know what black people are like in large numbers, and the first encounter can be a shock.

One of the most immediately striking things about my students was that they were loud. They had little conception of ordinary decorum. It was not unusual for five blacks to be screaming at me at once. Instead of calming down and waiting for a lull in the din to make their point—something that occurs to even the dimmest white students—blacks just tried to yell over each other.

It did no good to try to quiet them, and white women were particularly inept at trying. I sat in on one woman’s class as she begged the children to pipe down. They just yelled louder so their voices would carry over hers.

Many of my black students would repeat themselves over and over again— just louder. It was as if they suffered from Tourette syndrome. They seemed to have no conception of waiting for an appropriate time to say something. They would get ideas in their heads and simply had to shout them out. I might be leading a discussion on government and suddenly be interrupted: “We gotta get more Democrats! Clinton, she good!” The student may seem content with that outburst but two minutes later, he would suddenly start yelling again: “Clinton good!”

Anyone who is around young blacks will probably get a constant diet of rap music. Blacks often make up their own jingles, and it was not uncommon for 15 black boys to swagger into a classroom, bouncing their shoulders and jiving back.

They were yelling back and forth, rapping 15 different sets of words in the same harsh, rasping dialect. The words were almost invariably a childish form of boasting: “Who got dem shine rim, who got dem shine shoe, who got dem shine grill (gold and silver dental caps)?” The amateur rapper usually ends with a claim—in the crudest terms imaginable—that all womankind is sexually devoted to him. For whatever reason, my students would often groan instead of saying a particular word, as in, “She suck dat aaahhhh (think of a long grinding groan), she f**k dat aaaahhhh, she lick dat aaaahhh.”

So many black girls dance in the hall, in the classroom, on the chairs, next to the chairs, under the chairs, everywhere. Once I took a call on my cell phone and had to step outside of class. I was away about two minutes but when I got back the black girls had lined up at the front of the classroom and were convulsing to the delight of the boys.

Many black people, especially black women, are enormously fat. Some are so fat I had to arrange special seating to accommodate their bulk. I am not saying there are no fat white students—there are—but it is a matter of numbers and attitudes. Many black girls simply do not care that they are fat. There are plenty of white anorexics, but I have never met or heard of a black anorexic.

“Black women be big Mr. Jackson,” my students would explain.

“Is it okay in the black community to be a little overweight?” I ask. Two obese black girls in front of my desk begin to dance, “You know dem boys lak juicy fruit, Mr. Jackson.” “Juicy” is a colorful black expression for the buttocks.

Blacks, on average, are the most directly critical people I have ever met: “Dat shirt stupid. Yo’ kid a bastard. Yo’ lips big.” Unlike whites, who tread gingerly around the subject of race, they can be brutally to the point. Once I needed to send a student to the office to deliver a message. I asked for volunteers, and suddenly you would think my classroom was a bastion of civic engagement. Thirty dark hands shot into the air. My students loved to leave the classroom and slack off, even if just for a few minutes, away from the eye of white authority. I picked a light-skinned boy to deliver the message. One very black student was indignant: “You pick da half-breed.” And immediately other blacks take up the cry, and half a dozen mouths are screaming, “He half-breed.”

For decades, the country has been lamenting the poor academic performance of blacks and there is much to lament. There is no question, however, that many blacks come to school with a serious handicap that is not their fault. At home they have learned a dialect that is almost a different language. Blacks not only mispronounce words; their grammar is often wrong. When a black wants to ask, “Where is the bathroom?” he may actually say “Whar da badroom be?” Grammatically, this is the equivalent of “Where the bathroom is?” And this is the way they speak in high school. Students write the way they speak, so this is the language that shows up in written assignments.

It is true that some whites face a similar handicap. They speak with what I would call a “country” accent that is hard to reproduce but results in sentences such as “I’m gonna gemme a Coke.” Some of these country whites had to learn correct pronunciation and usage. The difference is that most whites overcome this handicap and learn to speak correctly; many blacks do not.

Most of the blacks I taught simply had no interest in academic subjects. I taught history, and students would often say they didn’t want to do an assignment or they didn’t like history because it was all about white people. Of course, this was “diversity” history, in which every cowboy’s black cook got a special page on how he contributed to winning the West, but black children still found it inadequate. So I would throw up my hands and assign them a project on a real, historical black person. My favorite was Marcus Garvey. They had never heard of him, and I would tell them to research him, but they never did. They didn’t care and they didn’t want to do any work.

Anyone who teaches blacks soon learns that they have a completely different view of government from whites. Once I decided to fill 25 minutes by having students write about one thing the government should do to improve America. I gave this question to three classes totaling about 100 students, approximately 80 of whom were black. My few white students came back with generally “conservative” ideas. “We need to cut off people who don’t work,” was the most common suggestion. Nearly every black gave a variation on the theme of “We need more government services.”

My students had only the vaguest notion of who pays for government services. For them, it was like a magical piggy bank that never goes empty. One black girl was exhorting the class on the need for more social services and I kept trying to explain that people, real live people, are taxed for the money to pay for those services. “Yeah, it come from whites,” she finally said. “They stingy anyway.”

“Many black people make over $50,000 dollars a year and you would also be taking away from your own people,” I said.

She had an answer to that: “Dey half breed.” The class agreed. I let the subject drop.

Many black girls are perfectly happy to be welfare queens. On career day, one girl explained to the class that she was going to have lots of children and get fat checks from the government. No one in the class seemed to have any objection to this career choice.

Surprising attitudes can come out in class discussion. We were talking about the crimes committed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, and I brought up the rape of a young girl in the bathroom of the Superdome. A majority of my students believed this was a horrible crime but a few took it lightly. One black boy spoke up without raising his hand: “Dat no big deal. They thought they is gonna die so they figured they have some fun. Dey jus’ wanna have a fun time; you know what I’m sayin’?” A few black heads nodded in agreement.

My department head once asked all the teachers to get a response from all students to the following question: “Do you think it is okay to break the law if it will benefit you greatly?” By then, I had been teaching for a while and was not surprised by answers that left a young, liberal, white woman colleague aghast. “Yeah” was the favorite answer. As one student explained, “Get dat green.”

There is a level of conformity among blacks that whites would find hard to believe. They like one kind of music: rap. They will vote for one political party: Democrat. They dance one way, speak one way, are loud the same way, and fail their exams in the same way. Of course, there are exceptions but they are rare.

Whites are different. Some like country music, others heavy metal, some prefer pop, and still others, God forbid, enjoy rap music. They have different associations, groups, almost ideologies. There are jocks, nerds, preppies, and hunters. Blacks are all— well—black, and they are quick to let other blacks know when they deviate from the norm.

One might object that there are important group differences among blacks that a white man simply cannot detect. I have done my best to find them, but so far as I can tell, they dress the same, talk the same, think the same. Certainly, they form rival groups, but the groups are not different in any discernible way. There simply are no groups of blacks that are as distinctly different from each other as white “nerds,” “hunters,” or “Goths,” for example.

How the world looks to blacks One point on which all blacks agree is that everything is “racis’.” This is one message of liberalism they have absorbed completely. Did you do your homework? “Na, homework racis’.” Why did you get an F on the test? “Test racis’.”

I was trying to teach a unit on British philosophers and the first thing the students noticed about Bentham, Hobbes, and Locke was “Dey all white! Where da black philosopher a’?” I tried to explain there were no blacks in eighteenth century Britain. You can probably guess what they said to that: “Dat racis’!” One student accused me of deliberately failing him on a test because I didn’t like black people.

“Do you think I really hate black people?” “Yeah.” “Have I done anything to make you feel this way? How do you know?” “You just do.” “Why do you say that?”

He just smirked, looked out the window, and sucked air through his teeth. Perhaps this was a regional thing, but the blacks often sucked air through their teeth as a wordless expression of disdain or hostility.

My students were sometimes unable to see the world except through the lens of their own blackness. I had a class that was host to a German exchange student. One day he put on a Power Point presentation with famous German landmarks as well as his school and family.

From time to time during the presentation, blacks would scream, “Where da black folk?!” The exasperated German tried several times to explain that there were no black people where he lived in Germany. The students did not believe him. I told them Germany is in Europe, where white people are from, and Africa is where black people are from. They insisted that the German student was racist, and deliberately refused to associate with blacks.

Blacks are keenly interested in their own racial characteristics. I have learned, for example, that some blacks have “good hair.” Good hair is black parlance for black-white hybrid hair. Apparently, it is less kinky, easier to style, and considered more attractive. Blacks are also proud of light skin. Imagine two black students shouting insults across the room. One is dark but slim; the other light and obese. The dark one begins the exchange: “You fat, Ridario!” Ridario smiles, doesn’t deign to look at his detractor, shakes his head like a wobbling top, and says, “You wish you light skinned.”

They could go on like this, repeating the same insults over and over.

My black students had nothing but contempt for Hispanic immigrants. They would vent their feelings so crudely that our department strongly advised us never to talk about immigration in class in case the principal or some outsider might overhear.

Whites were “racis’,” of course, but they thought of us at least as Americans. Not the Mexicans. Blacks have a certain, not necessarily hostile understanding of white people. They know how whites act, and it is clear they believe whites are smart and are good at organizing things. At the same time, they probably suspect whites are just putting on an act when they talk about equality, as if it is all a sham that makes it easier for whites to control blacks. Blacks want a bigger piece of the American pie. I’m convinced that if it were up to them they would give whites a considerably smaller piece than whites get now, but they would give us something. They wouldn’t give Mexicans anything.

What about black boys and white girls? No one is supposed to notice this or talk about it but it is glaringly obvious: Black boys are obsessed with white girls. I’ve witnessed the following drama countless times. A black boy saunters up to a white girl. The cocky black dances around her, not really in a menacing way. It’s more a shuffle than a threat. As he bobs and shuffles he asks, “When you gonna go wit’ me?”

There are two kinds of reply. The more confident white girl gets annoyed, looks away from the black and shouts, “I don’t wanna go out with you!” The more demure girl will look at her feet and mumble a polite excuse but ultimately say no.

There is only one response from the black boy: “You racis’.” Many girls—all too many—actually feel guilty because they do not want to date blacks. Most white girls at my school stayed away from blacks, but a few, particularly the ones who were addicted to drugs, fell in with them.

There is something else that is striking about blacks. They seem to have no sense of romance, of falling in love. What brings men and women together is sex, pure and simple, and there is a crude openness about this. There are many degenerate whites, of course, but some of my white students were capable of real devotion and tenderness, emotions that seemed absent from blacks—especially the boys.

Black schools are violent and the few whites who are too poor to escape are caught in the storm. The violence is astonishing, not so much that it happens, but the atmosphere in which it happens. Blacks can be smiling, seemingly perfectly content with what they are doing, having a good time, and then, suddenly start fighting. It’s uncanny. Not long ago, I was walking through the halls and a group of black boys were walking in front of me. All of a sudden they started fighting with another group in the hallway.

Blacks are extraordinarily quick to take offense. Once I accidentally scuffed a black boy’s white sneaker with my shoe. He immediately rubbed his body up against mine and threatened to attack me. I stepped outside the class and had a security guard escort the student to the office. It was unusual for students to threaten teachers physically this way, but among themselves, they were quick to fight for similar reasons.

The real victims are the unfortunate whites caught in this. They are always in danger and their educations suffer. White weaklings are particularly susceptible, but mostly to petty violence. They may be slapped or get a couple of kicks when they are trying to open a bottom locker. Typically, blacks save the hard, serious violence for each other.

There was a lot of promiscuous sex among my students and this led to violence. Black girls were constantly fighting over black boys. It was not uncommon to see two girls literally ripping each other’s hair out with a police officer in the middle trying to break up the fight. The black boy they were fighting over would be standing by with a smile, enjoying the show he had created. For reasons I cannot explain, boys seldom fought over girls.

Pregnancy was common among the blacks, though many black girls were so fat I could not tell the difference. I don’t know how many girls got abortions, but when they had the baby they usually stayed in school and had their own parents look after the child. The school did not offer daycare.

Aside from the police officers constantly on campus, security guards are everywhere in black schools—we had one on every hall. They also sat in on unruly classes and escorted students to the office. They were unarmed, but worked closely with the three city police officers who were constantly on duty.

There was a lot of drug-dealing at my school. This was a good way to make a fair amount of money but it also gave boys power over girls who wanted drugs. An addicted girl—black or white—became the plaything of anyone who could get her drugs.

One of my students was a notorious drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was 19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once he got a score of three out of 100 on a test. He had been locked up four times since he was 13.

One day, I asked him, “Why do you come to school?”

He wouldn’t answer. He just looked out the window, smiled, and sucked air through his teeth. His friend Yidarius ventured an explanation: “He get dat green and get dem females.”

“What is the green?” I asked. “Money or dope?” “Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.

A very fat black interrupted from across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr. Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast and lunch poor students get every day. “Nigga, we know’d you be lovin’ brickfuss!” shouts another student.

Some readers may believe that I have drawn a cruel caricature of black students. After all, according to official figures some 85 percent of them graduate. It would be instructive to know how many of those scraped by with barely a C- record. They go from grade to grade and they finally get their diplomas because there is so much pressure on teachers to push them through. It saves money to move them along, the school looks good, and the teachers look good.

Many of these children should have been failed, but the system would crack under their weight if they were all held back.

How did my experiences make me feel about blacks? Ultimately, I lost sympathy for them. In so many ways they seem to make their own beds. There they were in an integrationist’s fantasy—in the same classroom with white students, eating the same lunch, using the same bathrooms, listening to the same teachers—and yet the blacks fail while the whites pass.

One tragic outcome among whites who have been teaching for too long is that it can engender something close to hatred. One teacher I knew gave up fast food—not for health reasons but because where he lived most fast-food workers were black. He had enough of blacks on the job. This was an extreme example but years of frustration can take their toll. Many of my white colleagues with any experience were well on their way to that state of mind.

There is an unutterable secret among teachers: Almost all realize that blacks do not respond to traditional white instruction. Does that put the lie to environmentalism? Not at all. It is what brings about endless, pointless innovation that is supposed to bring blacks up to the white level. The solution is more diversity—or put more generally, the solution is change. Change is an almost holy word in education, and you can fail a million times as long as you keep changing. That is why liberals keep revamping the curriculum and the way it is taught. For example, teachers are told that blacks need handson instruction and more group work.

Teachers are told that blacks are more vocal and do not learn through reading and lectures. The implication is that they have certain traits that lend themselves to a different kind of teaching.

Whites have learned a certain way for centuries but it just doesn’t work with blacks. Of course, this implies racial differences but if pressed, most liberal teachers would say different racial learning styles come from some indefinable cultural characteristic unique to blacks. Therefore, schools must change, America must change. But into what? How do you turn quantum physics into hands-on instruction or group work? No one knows, but we must keep changing until we find something that works.

Public school has certainly changed since anyone reading this was a student. I have a friend who teaches elementary school, and she tells me that every week the students get a new diversity lesson, shipped in fresh from some bureaucrat’s office in Washington or the state capital. She showed me the materials for one week: a large poster, about the size of a forty-two inch flat-screen television. It shows an utterly diverse group—I mean diverse: handicapped, Muslim, Jewish, effeminate, poor, rich, brown, slightly brown, yellow, etc.—sitting at a table, smiling gaily, accomplishing some undefined task. The poster comes with a sheet of questions the teacher is supposed to ask. One might be: “These kids sure look different, but they look happy. Can you tell me which one in the picture is an American?”

Some eight-year-old, mired in ignorance, will point to a white child like himself. “That one.”

The teacher reads from the answer, conveniently printed along with the question. “No, Billy, all these children are Americans. They are just as American as you.”

The children get a snack, and the poster goes up on the wall until another one comes a week later. This is what happens at predominately white, middle-class, elementary schools everywhere. Elementary school teachers love All of the Colors of the Race, by award-winning children’s poet Arnold Adoff.

These are some of the lines they read to the children: “Mama is chocolate … Daddy is vanilla … Me (sic) is better … It is a new color. It is a new flavor. For love. Sometimes blackness seems too black for me, and whiteness is too sickly pale; and I wish every one were golden. Remember: long ago before people moved and migrated, and mixed and matched … there was one people: one color, one race. The colors are flowing from what was before me to what will be after. All the colors.”

Teaching as a career It may come as a surprise after what I have written, but my experiences have given me a deep appreciation for teaching as a career. It offers a stable, middle-class life but comes with the capacity to make real differences in the lives of children. In our modern, atomized world children often have very little communication with adults—especially, or even, with their parents—so there is potential for a real transaction between pupil and teacher, disciple and master.

A rewarding relationship can grow up between an exceptional, interested student and his teacher. I have stayed in my classroom with a group of students discussing ideas and playing chess until the janitor kicked us out. I was the old gentleman, imparting my history, culture, personal loves and triumphs, defeats and failures to young kinsman. Sometimes I fancied myself Tyrtaeus, the Spartan poet, who counseled the youth to honor and loyalty. I never had this kind intimacy with a black student, and I know of no other white teacher who did.

Teaching can be fun. For a certain kind of person it is exhilarating to map out battles on chalkboards, and teach heroism. It is rewarding to challenge liberal prejudices, to leave my mark on these children, but what I aimed for with my white students I could never achieve with the blacks.

There is a kind of child whose look can melt your heart: some working-class castaway, in and out of foster homes, often abused, who is nevertheless almost an angel. Your heart melts for these children, this refuse of the modern world.

Many white students possess a certain innocence; their cheeks still blush. Try as I might, I could not get the blacks to care one bit about Beethoven or Sherman’s march to the sea, or Tyrtaeus, or Oswald Spengler, or even liberals like John Rawls, or their own history. They cared about nothing I tried to teach them. When this goes on year after year it chokes the soul out of a teacher, destroys his pathos, and sends him guiltily searching for The Bell Curve on the Internet.

Blacks break down the intimacy that can be achieved in the classroom, and leave you convinced that that intimacy is really a form of kinship. Without intending to, they destroy what is most beautiful—whether it be your belief in human equality, your daughter’s innocence, or even the state of the hallway.

Just last year I read on the bathroom stall the words “F**k Whitey.” Not two feet away, on the same stall, was a small swastika.

The National Council for the Social Studies, the leading authority on social science education in the United States, urges teachers to inculcate such values as equality of opportunity, individual property rights, and a democratic form of government. Even if teachers could inculcate this milquetoast ideology into whites, liberalism is doomed because so many non-whites are not receptive to education of any kind beyond the merest basics.

It is impossible to get them to care about such abstractions as property rights or democratic citizenship. They do not see much further than the fact that you live in a big house and “we in da pro-jek.” Of course, there are a few loutish whites who will never think past their next meal and a few sensitive blacks for whom anything is possible, but no society takes on the characteristics of its exceptions.

Once I asked my students, “What do you think of the Constitution?” “It white,” one slouching black rang out. The class began to laugh. And I caught myself laughing along with them, laughing while Pompeii’s volcano simmers, while the barbarians swell around the Palatine, while the country I love, and the job I love, and the community I love become dimmer by the day.

I read a book by an expatriate Rhodesian who visited Zimbabwe not too many years ago. Traveling with a companion, she stopped at a store along the highway. A black man materialized next to her car window. “Job, boss, (I) work good, boss,” he pleaded. “You give job.”

“What happened to your old job?” the expatriate white asked. The black man replied in the straightforward manner of his race: “We drove out the whites. No more jobs. You give job.”

At some level, my students understand the same thing. One day I asked the bored, black faces staring back at me. “What would happen if all the white people in America disappeared tomorrow?”

“We screwed,” a young, pitch-black boy screamed back. The rest of the blacks laughed.

I have had children tell me to my face as they struggled with an assignment. “I cain’t do dis,” Mr. Jackson. “I black.”

The point is that human beings are not always rational. It is in the black man’s interest to have whites in Zimbabwe but he drives them out and starves. Most whites do not think black Americans could ever do anything so irrational. They see blacks on television smiling, fighting evil whites, embodying white values. But the real black is not on television, and you pull your purse closer when you see him, and you lock the car doors when he swaggers by with his pants hanging down almost to his knees.

For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.

I have been in parent-teacher conferences that broke my heart: the child pleading with his parents to take him out of school; the parents convinced their child’s fears are groundless. If you love your child, show her you care— not by giving her fancy vacations or a car, but making her innocent years safe and happy. Give her the gift of a not-heavily black school.

Mr. Jackson now teaches at a majority- white school.

109 comments:

R D. Robinson said...

I read your writing relative to African American students. I agree, there are educational divides between white students and black students. Perhaps a conspiracy has been enabled. The promotion of Rap Music, Celebrity Life, and other illusions have capture young African Americans minds. A form of new slavery. The best slave is one who doesn't know that he or she is a slave. The system is exploiting the positive future of so many African American students. It is sad. America must revamp its educational system.

Anonymous said...

Even during my years as a black student at a public school (and those schools were not the best in the district) had I encountered such boorish behavior as this teacher describes. It sounds like doing his job of teaching was just about impossible to do.

The teacher does end up using a lot of stereotypes:

"There is a level of conformity among blacks that whites would find hard to believe. They like one kind of music: rap. They will vote for one political party: Democrat. They dance one way, speak one way, are loud the same way, and fail their exams in the same way."

At the end of that paragraph he adds, "Of course, there are exceptions but they are rare."

"Blacks are all - well - black, and they are quick to let other blacks know when they deviate from the norm."

"Of course, there are a few loutish whites who will never think past their next meal and a few sensitive blacks for whom anything is possible, but no society takes on the characteristics of its exceptions."

"There is an unutterable secret among teachers: Almost all realize that blacks do not respond to traditional white instruction."

I did. What am I, a freak of nature?

I'm an exception to the rule, and I'd like to hope that there are more than just a rare few like me. To be honest, there probably aren't a whole lot, and I'll always stick out like a sore thumb.

Reading a whole bunch of stereotypes is a turn-off. But I kept reading, knowing that there are probably a lot of people who openly or secretly agree with everything he says.

This experience will color his view of all blacks, and any that encounter him will automatically have that strike against them.

At the same time, I have to admit that a lot of blacks act exactly as he describes, and unless they get rid of this mindset, they will not become productive members of society. There are more that are as he describes to a lesser degree. Many of my family members, with whom I no longer associate, are like this.

To answer your question of what we should do about this, Mr. Nemko: well, after a certain point, people of all ages begin to think for themselves and have their own thoughts and ideas. They know on some level that there is a certain way the world works, or America works. If these people do not want to follow the rules and make better lives for themselves and/or their families, they need to be cut off. They do not deserve to be coddled. If they keep refusing to be taught, why should money be wasted on teaching them? If they do not want to contribute to society, why should society contribute to them? Just because they're here?

Maybe at some point, citizens should have to earn their citizenship, like legal immigrants do. You think that natural-born citizens would take their spot in America more seriously if they had to apply for it every few years, like a driver's license?

Kelly said...

Mr. Nemko and Mr. Jackson: You are brave to post this. It's not often we see truths this uncomfortable spelled out in such stark terms. People are afraid to tell them for fear of being labeled racists.

R.D. Robinson: I agree with you. If I were a conspiracy theorist (which I'm not), I would say this horrible situation could hardly have occurred without being engineered on purpose. But then the question would become "why?" and I don't think even the most wacko leftist would have wanted the massive, dangerous underclass we have now.

Anonymous: I can hear the pain in your words. I'm so sorry you've been left with essentially no family and you have to read such awful things about the people who look like you. I, too, was taken a little aback by the stereotypes in Mr. Jackson's piece, but then I thought about how I would probably feel after going through what he has experienced.

At the end of it all, I'm left feeling enormously sad for these kids and for the adults they will become. They clearly take no joy in life whatsoever and have no idea that joy exists or is possible. Most of them probably never will. Mr. Jackson got out of that situation, as do most of the white kids he speaks of, and a few of the blacks. But the majority of those blacks will live out their (likely foreshortened) lives never knowing the simple pleasures of accomplishment and of meaningful connections with other people.

I wish I knew the answer.

Marty Nemko said...

On rereading this article, this seems more extreme than I remember. I had been working on medical research at the Rockefeller University but it was 1971 and I was swept up by the times' liberal idealism and left to run drug-prevention "rap groups" in I.S. 61, an inner-city school in New York City.

While my experience in that school was rather similar to what this article reports, it wasn't as extreme. Yes, a number of Black girls came to school with razor blades in their hair because they knew they'd get into a fight in which their opponent would pull their hair and thus get cut by the razor blades. I remember my utter frustration in being unable to control the kids--despite my really trying hard to be a great teacher--there would often be a few kids running around the room, flirting, pushing, and I'll never forget when I told a kid to sit down he get got up in my face and said, 'You ain't my mama. You can't make me!"

But because the article reports such extreme behavior, a piece of me wonders if it's exaggerated or at least atypical of inner-city heavily African-American schools. So, I'm wondering what it would be like if today, one walked through the halls and peeked into classes at random (not those hand-picked by the principal for me to see) and watched recess at an inner-city, heavily African-American high school. I'd welcome comments from anyone who has done so.

Anonymous said...

As a former tutor to some black students in an under performing elementary school (I was in high school) I found that the really dedicated students needed outside tutoring in basic skills because their regular teachers were overwhelmed with the daily requirements of keeping some order in the class. Many black students have parents who want them to succeed but don't know where to turn for help.

Anonymous said...

(Full disclosure - I'm white)

Sad. For the teacher but even more for the students who ultimately suffer.

I will say...having worked in companies and an area with a large number African American employees that virtually no one was like this, but apparently exceptions were very rare in this school.

You know, if I'd had the chance in school to avoid homework, disrespect instruction, blame others, and dismiss initiative with an easy excuse I likely would have taken it.

It's not a skin color thing, it's an African American certain groups thing.

Many African Americans would not behave this way. Having spent time in Africa, the average African wouldn't dream of behaving in such a manner (they could well educate all of us on decorum). Nor the Africans who come to America and become citizens, get jobs and raise families.

At first, I was thinking, if these students could see this in Africa - would they chance their minds?

I don't think so, because then the excuse is gone. They are angry and defensive when the sham is revealed - people who look like them can succeed, etc. They know that but sometimes we're victims of our own habits and the system is expecting or forcing them otherwise, and one teacher can't be expected to in a sea of denial.

I haven't a clue how to start fixing it, but I hope it changes. I dream of the day when expectations are the same no matter what shade your skin is - at school, at work, at play.

Anonymous said...

You really struck a chord with this post. I'm surprised that not only are the responses civil, but also just about everybody agrees with you.

I bet that there are more stories like this out there than you know. Probably not quite like Mr. Jackson's story. Extreme or not, however, you got some of your readers thinking.

I've been looking at websites that compare public schools in California, where I live. The ones usually rated best or with the best scores had mostly white and/or Asian students, and the worst usually had mostly black and/or Latino students. After a while, you begin to wonder if this is merely coincidence.

Nothing will be done about this. I believe that most of the people that run schools are stuck in what I'm calling the "insanity loop" (trying the same things and expecting different results). Or maybe, just maybe, they don't care all that much about improving education for students. They're giving what they believe is necessary for a very large and increasingly diverse population without truly trying to figure out what that population needs.

I just read your most recent comment, and I can see why you might be ambivalent about speaking to a journalist about this.

While both Eric Holder and Barack Obama called for an open discussion of race, very few of us are equipped to have it. Race is one of those topics where it is almost impossible for a person to come to the table with an open mind. Our opinions on race are formed very early, and so many of us stubbornly stick to them even if the situation before us proves us wrong.

I can only hope that the journalist whose interest you piqued comes to the table with an open mind if and when he speaks to you.

Like one of the anonymous posters here, I will give disclosure as well.

I wrote the first anonymous response. I've written many of the anonymous comments in response to previous posts. Often Marty can't tell who it is, but I think he'll recognize me this time.

I'm a black woman, and I've personally known Marty for 4 years. In that time he's become a very good friend to me, one of the kindest people I've met in my life.

He's also the only person I've met, including my black friends and family, who has been willing to have open discussions on race with me.

I know Marty would not have posted Mr. Jackson's story if he did not honestly believe that it could lead to better, not worse, race relations. As Kelly said, it's brave. Any person who reads Mr. Jackson's story and can confront their own feelings and reactions without any excuses or justifications is just as brave. We can all learn from this.

Marty Nemko said...

Thank you, Anonymous. I am touched.

Marty Nemko said...

A journalist said he may be doing a story on the fact that I would post this incendiary essay. He asked me why I posted it.

This is my answer. It is somewhat redundant with the penultimate paragraph of my introduction to the essay, but you may, nonetheless, find it of interest.

Hi Matt,

Maybe it would help if I, in writing, answered your question about why I reproduced on my blog and then in our phone conversation you can ask whatever follow-ups you may have.

This is why I posted the person's essay. I worry terribly about censorship. Like the ACLU, I believe society is best served when, especially around such important issues as the achievement gap, the full range of ideas, even and maybe especially ideas that make us feel uncomfortable, are allowed to be given voice.

If I were blogging in the 1950s McCarthy era, no doubt I would have been posting leftist essays to counter McCarthy's attempts to censor such thought.

Today, the opposite seems true--conservative ideas have a hard time finding a major public voice. Sure there's Fox News and much talk radio but the media outlets with the largest mindshare, especially among the intellengsia (e.g NPR, NY Times, etc) publish little conservative thought except as a whipping boy or straw man.

So, in my blog, I look for opportunities to present perspectives that are often censored. Certainly, this post is the most extreme essay I've ever posted and, indeed, I feel its position is too extreme and broad-brush--Of course, many African-American students are bright and hardworking.

But I felt that, especially in education, we mainly hear lofty rhetoric from politicians and educational leaders (who often themselves are politicians) and from academics worried that political correctness is required for getting hired or tenured. That's not the whole story.

Just as the much-needed women's movement was triggered not just by measured academic tomes but also by passionate statements that, even though they were sometimes excessively male-bashing, shone powerful light on women's plight, similarly, I believe we need to hear passionate (even if deeply frustrated and overly drawn) reports from the trenches on tough issues, for example the question of the achievement gap between African-Americans and Asians/whites.

As I said, for decades, we've certainly heard plenty of the lofty rhetoric from education leaders and academics yet the achievement gap remains and little new is being proposed. I made a decision to post this flawed essay, hoping that its from-the-street perspective, overdrawn though it is, would make a small contribution toward a more full-dimensioned discussion of the problem and toward identifying more promising approaches and not be used to justify racist behavior toward African-Americans. That is the last thing I want.

You may recall that Attorney General Eric Holder called us a nation of cowards about race and urged us to discuss the issue in full dimension. Reproducing this essay on my blog was simply a small effort in that direction.

Yet, I must admit feeling, somehow, ambivalent now about having posted it and, frankly, a little scared to talk with you--Whether or not you agree with my decision to post that essay, I hope you'll understand that it was an act of integrity, even bravery to post it: I had absolutely nothing to gain from posting it (other than being true to my desire to facilitate the full-dimension exploration of issues) and much to lose (damage to my reputation which I've worked long and hard to earn) if you decide to post an article that is critical of me for having posted that person's essay.

dance teacher said...

Great post.. and some interesting points made.

Kelly said...

"I made a decision to post this flawed essay, hoping that its from-the-street perspective, overdrawn though it is, would make a small contribution toward a more full-dimensioned discussion of the problem and toward identifying more promising approaches and not be used to justify racist behavior toward African-Americans. That is the last thing I want."

You're in good company, Marty. In his amazing book, The Blank Slate, Steven Pinker drives home the point that, while effectively addressing societal problems such as this requires that we face them full-on and honestly acknowledge their origins, such a direct approach never justifies bigotry and prejudice, because those are simply not features of a modern, civil society.

The above is very much a paraphrase, as I don't have the book in front of me at the moment. But I believe it's an accurate (though bare-bones) summary of his position, with which I strongly concur. It seems to also be your position.

Marty Nemko said...

Thanks, Kelly.

Yes, while I do think the essay is flawed in its extremity and broad-brushness, I do believe it is important to see various people's first-hand reporting of the cultural mores in the black community--to the extent they're inimical to education, it's crucial to be aware of them if we hope to close the achievement gap.

Those cultural mores have largely been ignored in efforts (delineated in the intro to the original post) to close the achievement gap because it makes people (including me) uncomfortable to discuss--as you can tell, it's uncomfortable for me even to publish others' first-hand reporting on the subject.

But we have to. It's like trying to cure cancer without examining all the likely causal factors.

D Robinson said...

After reading this blog, I have to admit I'm quite embarrassed. I'm a 32 year old Black female engineer who was born and reared in the Southeast (Tupelo, Mississippi), and I knew a group of kids who acted like this.

I was in a predominantly white school so I was a bit more sheltered from this sort of environment. However, the white kids were equally as rude and cruel to one another. At the end of the day, I was raised to be a good kid and treat people with respect from day one. I'm still that same person today.

It's curious to hear this teacher's account of these kids, and all I can think is this person will have this misconception that all Blacks are that way. I like rap, I like R&B, I like rock, and I adore techno...does that make me a rare Black? When I was a teenager my favorites were Ice Cube, MC Hammer, Keith Sweat, Poison, Warrant, and Guns n Roses...does that make me a freak?

I live in Connecticut now, and there are virtually no Blacks where I live. It's tough to have a Black community in a town of 96% whites. They watch TV and listen to the stereotypes and assume we're all like the Blacks on BET or Cops.

And why is it so considered a bad thing? Even if it were true that Black people were generally less intelligent, listen to rap all day, vote Democrat, and talk loudly...why is that considered a negative? It's an assumption that whites act appropriately and are considered the pristine standard for human behavior.

I'm fed up, and although I work in a corporate environment with mostly 50 year old white males, I laugh out loud, I joke, I have fun, I even joke in "Ebonics" with a select few of them who are familiar with Blacks. However, I’m no one’s token. I've survived layoffs, management changes, and career changes in this environment because I'm genuine, true to myself, command respect, and I produce results.

I’m not sure what to think of this article, and (honestly) I feel a little embarrassed to be Black after reading this teacher’s account. It’s just one person who is genuinely expressing his opinions and reading it made me defensive. My defensiveness just means that I’ve got more to work to do over here (on myself that is) because I cannot affect someone else’s opinions/perceptions. I can only affect how I perceive myself. If I was truly okay about whom I am (skin, culture, capabilities, etc.), this person’s comments would not affect me.

Marty Nemko said...

Dear D Robinson,

I am sad indeed that your reputation suffers because of the actions of others.

Marty

wrallen99 said...

Marty,
I think Mr. Jackson should have been more specific about who he was writing about. It's likely that his students were mostly low-income students with American born parents. Many African-American families with middle or upper income either move to a more diverse school or put their children into private schools. This leaves the local schools with students who are low-income and have parents with little education. Parents of students who immigrated from Africa or the Caribbean also tend to value education and put their children in private or diverse schools.

My wife is black and from Belize. Her and her family are typical of many people who recently moved here and are serious about education. Of course, where she went to high school, you had to pay and the school was vary rigorous in science and math. They are often puzzled by the African-American families who don't take advantage of a good education. Like I said, I've met friends from Africa and the Caribbean who value education, too. Also, they are not caught up in the whole this race, that race thing.

As for education, I've felt that we should adopt the model where there are two tracks: vocational and college. If someone isn't interested in going to college, they can learn a vocational skill in high school. Many of these skills are in high demand and pay very well.

JimJinNJ said...

(I'm white)
This essay is quite overdue to be written and published. I think/hope the situation is on the extreme end of the distribution-can't imagine what is beyond it.
But I fear it is true. When I occasionally go into philadelphia to the Gallery (indoor shopping mall) during the day, it is flooded with young, mostly male black kids. why aren't they in school I always wonder. And they are loud, illieterate and generally objectionable. No amount of diversity training and brainwashing could get me to relate to them.
I suspect this is quite regionally determined. Phila is a trash heep of black folk generally. When I travel to e.g. Atlanta, SC, or central Illinois I get a different, more likable impression. So I suspect this is big city stuff. Somehow we've ended up with a sub-culture (called it a tribe or the "black commuinty") that is just not civilized, socialized. I think the data (US and worldwide) is correct taht Black are significantly lower in intelligence than Whites who in turn are consistently lower than many Asians. (If you don't like Bell Curve, checkout Global Bell Curve.) But that doesn't explain all. the differences are real but the distributions overlap more than not. So this is a socialized condition. It takes no genious to imagine what is going on after school. If there's a parent, it is most likely a woman and hi probability the child is illegitimate (and she proud of it).

I could go on but I know many are saying what a "racis" I am. I don'
t think so. The fact is there is serious dysfunction in the american black population; in addition, you are hard pressed to name a black country or a black mayor city in US that is not dysfunctional.
This is the culture Bill Cosby. Thomas Sowell and others points out only to be called Uncle Tom.
Hideous situation.

Anonymous said...

This really hits home for me. I teach in an inner city school. It's mostly hispanic but we do have a lot of African American students too. I see a lot of issues between the two groups. Mostly the African American students not liking the Hispanic students. These students are in a cycle of poverty and it's a culture that they've been in all their lives. It's really sad. They don't seem to want to change it, or in some of the cases, don't know how. As they get older they just don't even care. Their parents are some of the worst to deal with too. As a special education teacher it is very disheartening to try time after time to get a parent in for a meeting, only to be blown off. Or to have to stake out their house, spend lots of personal time tracking this person down because they just don't care enough to come in and work with you on their child's education. (A sign that education is not valued.) Most of the behavior problems in our school come from our black students and not from our hispanic students, and our school has a much larger hispanic population. We get more support from our hispanic parents when there is a problem.
I wish that it wasn't a "bad" thing for African American students to excel in school. They should be proud to be good students. They shouldn't be labeled traitors or Uncle Toms. They should be celebrated and regarded as role models. And so should the white students, the hispanic students, asian students, etc. Maybe that's my wishful thinking as a middle class white woman. I'll continue working with my students and trying to change the cycle, trying to make a difference.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure WHERE your experiences have been Mr. Jackson, if I can call you that. Let me assure you, PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE NOT THE SAME! You write as if you are the authority on these behaviors, you are not. You write as if someone as threatened you with bodily harm. You're comments and 'insights' are greatly controlled and directed by your racist attitude. If you had respected your students they may have come up to your standards, but from what you have written - the students understand your underlying racist attitude and live up to just that - an attitude that they are all too familiar with. All black students do not talk loud, yes some do. All black students do not listen to rap, yes SOME do. All black teenagers think of only sex and drugs and getting 'dat green'. You have written as if because of the color of skin a child can be categorized into your little pot of characteristics. There are more than a few black students that do not fit into your pot, Mr. Jackson. I challenge you, go somewhere else and teach, try not to let your attitude get in the way when you hear the street language come from these lips unlike your own from backgrounds unlike your own. Respect the person who has thoughts and sway them with the expert teaching that you MAY possess to think out side of the box that has obviously become your home!
As far as the educational system changing the curriculum for the cause of black students, think again - yes there is a huge gap between blacks and whites but it is beginning to close. The black individuals I know at one time felt no hope. That is, until Obama became President - now they feel they can accomplish anything. You see, they at one time felt utter hopelessness because they came up against white people who called themselves educators - people with one thought - they are black and black equals stupid - people like you Mr. Jackson. I have a lot more to say about this but I feel some of it you may need to find on your own - challenge yourself to look for that student who stands out and search your inner soul - how would I behave if I had that background? Ask yourself this question before putting all assumptions upon the student before allowing them a chance to prove their intelligence because of the color of the skin, an outward appearance that is only that - on the outside. Once you look inside they do have the same needs and desires - but you as an educator helped to form some of those thoughts and some of those desires - think also of that Mr. Jackson.
From a mother and teacher of black students

Anonymous said...

C. Kirabo Jackson, an associate professor of labor economics at Cornell University, published a study last month in the Journal of Labor Economics. He reported that, at all levels of schooling, high-quality teachers, both black and white, were more likely to switch schools when the racial makeup of a school became predominantly black.

D Robinson said...

Thanks Marty, really cutting edge stuff you're posting. Keep stirring the pot, it makes people think.


Daphne R.

Anonymous said...

Here's the study referred to earlier:

http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1010&context=c_kirabo_jackson

His study was limited to one school district, Charlotte-Mecklenburg, NC, which recently ended mandatory school desegregation. His website says that the paper has been peer reviewed.

http://works.bepress.com/c_kirabo_jackson/subject_areas.html

Interesting.

Anonymous said...

Sad, so sad.

I sit here reading the comments to this informative article and just chuckle.

Some of you will deny reality until the bitter end. Yet more will pile on more excuses as to why it is. You will ignore the obvious answer because it is too painful to think about.

Its glaringly obvious this "racist" was no racist when he started. Its glaringly obvious he tried everything he could, and still failed in the face of the thug-life culture gripping the black community. A culture they love and endorse. You are the means to your own ends, yet still you blame whitey. Such ignorance to dance around the inconvenient truth. Even now you praise a halfbreed in the white house, who cannot speak without a teleprompter. To you he is the messiah, but he is nothing but a weak man with a strong heart. nothing any country can do will save you from yourselves.

Insult away, insults are the only way many know how to counter the truth. Lambast away at me. It changes nothing of the reality of the situation.

The exceptions change nothing, only the majority, with their pure numbers, do. Untill the culture is changed, by you yourselves, to endorse education, this will only continue.

It is not America that needs revamping.

Nor any educational system.

Nor laws, policies, or what have you.

Its the culture blacks have fostered for themselves.

Mr.Jackson never forced them to behave the way they do, nor anyone else in his situation. The more black the area, the more glaringly obvious his observations, and more moronic those who tout diversity, yet live purely among whites, seem.

If you do not change this, something only you as a community can do.

This degradation will continue.

That i guarantee.

Anonymous said...

I find it hilarious how so many people who had a comment about this essay felt that it was imperative to state their own race (even if they were not citing personal experiences). You can agree or disagree with the essay without categorizing yourself in a racial group. Especially if you disagree with the essay, it undermines your comment to state your race.

I was educated in a parish and then a private grade school, in a magnet high school, and will attend a private university.

I have heard stories exactly like this one from friends who were educated in public schools.

Does that mean I think that all black people act this way? No.

Does that mean I think there is something going wrong with the raising of children in a large segment of our society? Yes.

However, regardless of another's actions, "two wrongs don't make a right." At high school age, I don't care if you were raised in the most difficult home situation: you are in charge of your actions.

Our society provides public education, public libraries, etc. for everyone, and it's your own decision--and no one else's-- if you are going to take advantage of the opportunities presented to you.

Anonymous said...

Citing the paragraph stating that you did not want this essay to become a justification for racist thoughts and discussion, well, that failed. I only became aware of this article/essay because of a visit to Stormfront.org. So, if your intention was genuine, it did not work. As you may or may not be aware, Stormfront is a bastion of racist thought and contains the worst of the worst thinking and expressions regarding African Americans in all aspects of our great American society. The hate discussed there is not only irrational, but will make the most tolerant non-whites begin to hate whites on a whole. They are currently running with it as I type this response, see http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=615235 Some of what you wrote contains a kernel of truth, but don't forget, an ear of corn has multiple kernels and among 30 million plus African Americans, saying that your observations are the rule and there are few exceptions is highly misleading. If that were the case, Black america would not produce any successes whatsoever. Remember when it was widely believed that Blacks lacked the capacity to excel in sports? Now, the only sports that Blacks do not dominate, are those that require millions from sponsors that do not have the interest of Blacks as a priority. One Black in Golf among a field of thousands and, well you know the rest, it was the same for tennis, baseball, football, even basketball. I will admit that reading your essay made my eyes well up with genuine tears because I am familiar with that segment of the African American community. What is rarely discussed is the fact that White teachers who do venture to tackle the task of teaching in the inner city, do so with a set of preconceived ideas. They go in expecting to observe and experience that kind of behavior and subsequently fulfill their prophecy. They do very little to attempt to change those behaviors, but are quick to condemn those students once they exit. I know that because I attended inner city schools during my primary school career. I have had white teachers and guidance counselors try to steer me away from higher education because of the color of my skin, telling me that it is not necessary for me to further my education and that I would be better off learning a trade. I proved them wrong by not only attending university, but have been a great success in my professional life. I have known Black students that have acted out in the way you described, but on the other hand, I have also known Black students who were the complete opposite and excelled. One thing that needs to be understood, is that the European thought process is a bit different from the non-European thought process. Europeans developed the English language, they perfected it to meet their own needs and desires, An African American experiences difficulties with the language because it is essentially foreign to them. Even when born into the language, they have trouble with it due to linguistics. You have to agree that English is the most difficult language to learn, either written or spoken. African Americans are indoctrinated and are forced to think in the way Europeans think. Blacks are an oral people, their histories used to be passed on orally through proverbs and stories that weren't necessarily written down. That is one of the reasons that rap music is so popular. I do think that written language is very important especially in a complex society such as ours; however, older African tribal societies were not at all complex. I have always believed that as a people, Europeans considering themselves superior and civil, should have the wisdom to at least attempted to share their "superiority" in the same way that teachers should share their superior knowledge with their students instead of berating them.

Anonymous said...

Well, this just about describes my high school experience. It wasn't as bad as this article because my school was mostly Hispanic in population.

To posters who seek other reasons for this type of failure in black schools I have my own opinion.

If the way they act is based on some conspiracy and so forth, do black students have some intellectual backbone? That is, can't they reason, or at least question why they like their lifestyle? Or perhaps the answer lies in that they simply gravitate to whatever lifestyle seems palatable to them, for reasons that might be considered "racis'." I.e. biological differences?

Continuously blaming others or society is fruitless. Where is the black students' ability to read through conspiracies or to give respect to teachers, or to be quiet when told so. Or is that racist as well?

Maybe then, black students only have an interest in free brekfus, da gren, and da honnies.

Of course, there are exceptions.

Anonymous said...

I avoided this kind of atmosphere, but a family member went to an "integrated" school and her experiences were illuminating. She and her white girl friends had to go to the restroom in groups to deter attacks by black girls. They gave up eating in the cafeteria because of black violence and ate their brown bag lunches in vacant class rooms during the noon hour.

My experiences with blacks came in college, and they weren't much better than in high school. They were loud, rude, ill mannered, lazy and stupid. In my younger idealistic days I tried to befriend a couple of them and was that a jolt! The fact is that regardless of their declared field of study, most blacks major in being black. Liberal teachers immediately fall silent when the blacks speak because the "black perspective" is holy doctrine. What is the "black perspective"? The "black perspective" is a world view based on elevating the ugliest, crudest most uncivilized human instincts and denigrating every single uplifting or ennobling value they encounter.

If you want a good example of this, down load and read Michelle Obama's senior thesis from Princeton University. Apart from the grammatical mistakes, typos and tedious syntax, it seethes with hatred of white people and white civilization. Michelle Obama is a text book example of the affirmative action Negro who majored in "being black." The only differences between her and the people described in this essay is that she has better table manners and dresses more fashionably.

I have no more patience for blacks. None. In my entire life I've never seen any institution, classroom, place of employment or any thing else uplifted or improved by their presence. I can't remember all the times that standards have been lowered for them. Has anyone ever heard of standards being raised because of their presence or contribution?

We need to bring back segregated schools and segregated neighborhoods. We need "White Safety Zones" to protect white people from them. They are just not in sync with civilization and never will be.

Anonymous said...

I missed the joys of integrated schooling, but other family members were not so lucky. A younger sister briefly attended an "integrated" school and it was Hell. She and her white girl friends could only use the restrooms in groups to deter black girls who wanted to fight them. Violent black girls chased them out of the school cafeteria and my sister and her friends ate their bag lunches in quiet but safe empty class rooms during the lunch period.

My wonderful experiences with Negroes came in college, where I quickly learned that the presence of a single one of them could completely sabotage a class. They're loud, rude, lazy, ill mannered and stupid beyond belief. At the same time, with the leave of gutless liberal teachers, they're always spouting off with the "black perspective." And do you know what is the “black perspective”? The "black perspective" is bizarre world view based on elevating the ugliest, crudest, and most uncivilized human instincts and denigrating anything with an uplifting or ennobling influence. These people are dysfunctional savages.

After I wrote an op ed in the college newspaper about affirmative action, the Black Student Union came to the newspaper office, trashed the place and beat up one of the liberals there. They couldn’t find me and I guess all whites look alike to them. Police were not called to investigate or prosecute these crimes and we were told the most important thing was “not to overreact.”

I have never heard of a single area of life that was uplifted or improved by the presence of blacks. To the contrary, one always reads about civil rights law suits seeking to lower standards, dumb down tests, or otherwise lower the quality of life to accommodate them. They’re not suited for modern, advanced civilization. It’s as though they were broken people or something.

We need to bring back segregated schools, segregated communities…White Safety Zones, if you will. We would not send adult soldiers into war zones un armed and denied the right of self defense and there is no excuse for sending white children, or white adults for that matter, into black communities, schools or anything else. Call me a racist. Call me a bigot. Call me a hater. Then, pause for reflection, and try to think of a single big city taken over by blacks and black elected officials in which you would be safe.

Anonymous said...

A recent study said more black teachers are needed for the black children.
Well, first it was thought that black children needed to be around white children to learn.
Then when that did not improve outcomes it was because the teachers needed diversity seminars and the district had to hire expensive "consultants".
Now, ...they are rediscovering the obvious, that blacks do better with blacks.
All the more reason to return to segregation when both races were happier.

Anonymous said...

About what I've realized.

I already had my pre-concieved notions from experiences before I began working at an office with a large portion of Black people. The behavior seems to be one of spontaneous dance, excuses, and basically doing as little work as possible while complaining about a lack of pay. They constantly come in late, talk extremely vulgar and loud and just generally engage in behavior you would not see of someone of another race.

It's really quite sad and has done nothing but confirm the stereotypes I already knew.

Anonymous said...

"I did. What am I, a freak of nature? I'm an exception to the rule, and I'd like to hope that there are more than just a rare few like me."

Read, The Bell Curve by Murray and Herrnstein. You'll see that you as a very smart black, are, indeed a freak of nature, just as those very, very, very smart whites are. There ARE only a rare few like you. I'm sorry. I hope you find them. Try looking for black conservatives. They tend to be smart, and, obviously, nonconformist.

"If these people do not want to follow the rules and make better lives for themselves and/or their families, they need to be cut off. They do not deserve to be coddled. If they keep refusing to be taught, why should money be wasted on teaching them?"

Thank you for daring to say this.
The real tragedy that the leftists have caused with their push of the comfortable, pretty, multicultural lie that "we are all equal and white racism is the cause of black underachievement and any white who says different is racist" is that, if these deliberated disrupters were GONE, no more excuses, the few, clearly capable and motivated blacks such as yourself could have a chance to learn -- and even the chance to meet those few others like you.

Anonymous said...

I have worked with blacks for years in a health care capacity. I am white.

There is clearly a genetic difference in intelligence which is not compatible with blacks residing in a civilized society.

I am not sure what the answer is at this point.

Anonymous said...

You just be a racis, mufucka, mah dik and all dat sheet. A nigga gotta do wat a nigga gotta do, mah dik.

Truthfully, anyone who has ever spent any time living around the garden variety ghetto trash that are very truthfully described in this piece, comes to HATE them! There is no other rational emotion that could come from true immersion in the black inner city culture. Maybe pity, but pity only goes so far when you are dealing with violent, degenerate savages.

Anonymous said...

I'm white and I went to school in Los Angeles during the 80's and early 90's. I had the EXACT same experiences with blacks as described in this article. I entered school as an incredibly open minded, left leaning child. I exited school completely the opposite. My experiences mirror those Mr. Jackson has described, and that was almost 20 years ago. I can't imagine what schools look like today. I could write pages and pages on the behavior of black kids and many Latino kids as well, and not just aimed at whites, but aimed at anyone deemed too weak to fight back. Blacks become their own worst enemy, and they don't even know it.

Beth said...

"There is an unutterable secret among teachers: Almost all realize that blacks do not respond to traditional white instruction."

I did. What am I, a freak of nature?"

No, you are not. I assume that you had a strong support system that taught you a value for education. You were blessed, unlike these other unfortunate children.

I've seen the same behavior among welfare whites in California, so this dysfunctionality is not related to race. If the author had removed the term black, it could have been the same school system that I pulled my kids out of because of said attitude. The same lack of value for education, inability to focus on the future, entitlement mentality, etc. Parents who didn't give a damn and encouraged their kids to fail rather then succeed. The same frustration and anger among the teachers who were struggling against a low rent culture.

Read Theodore Dalrymples "Life at the Bottom" to see how the same scenario plays out in England.

CULTURE (or lack thereof), not race, is everything.

Marty Nemko said...

Candidly, I have been strongly tempted to censor a number of the most recent comments.

Much of their content strikes me as not constructive. Some of it, arguably, could even be termed hate speech.

But I'm not sure and so--especially, when, in my most recent post, I decried the censorship of political incorrect thought--I decided (and this is another truly gray area decision) to publish the comments rather than censor them but state in THE STRONGEST TERMS POSSIBLE, my antipathy toward much of what they had to say and express my dismay that the essay was touted in a clearly racist organization's online forum.

Whatever negative experiences a person may have had with individuals of a certain background, it is ESSENTIAL that we not tar all people of that background with the same brush AND that those negative experiences should never be used as an excuse for advocating such approaches as deliberately segregated schools, a practice I find anathema.

I have friends of different racial and ethnic backgrounds and I would be saddened indeed to think that any of them would have been precluded from attending a school because of their race or ethnicity.

I urge all readers to use this remarkably, often frighteningly candid essay and subsequent comments as a trigger for constructive ideas aimed at benefiting kids of all races and ethnic backgrounds.

Beth said...

BTW, my grandfather taught in a one room California schoolhouse in the late 1800s.

He had a gun in his desk because of the big hulking WHITE farm boys who thought it would be fun to "whip the teacher". They soon found out otherwise.

Culture, my dears, it's all about culture.

"Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man".

Anonymous said...

My nephew and niece attend one of the top H.S.'s in the country. It is a magnet program, but the school is in the low-income part of town. Kids who live there have the great privilege of attending the school without having to apply and be accepted.

What I hear from my nephew is totally consistent with what I read in that article. The black students' cultural differences, outbursts ("O-BA-MA!"), and constant claims of racism make it difficult to maintain an environment conducive to good instruction and learning for those students who want to achieve. Additionally, the teachers' hands are tied when it comes to enforcing rules or punishing a student. Why? Because the student will claim "racism"...which could destroy the teacher's career. The school district is so worried about avoiding lawsuits and keeping a PC reputation, that they rarely side with the teachers when the race card is played.

Parents have complained en masse, to no avail at this point.

There is an undeniable cultural difference. It's the difference in the mindset of those who believe they are owed a living, and those who believe success is the result of hard work. This "the gov't should take care of me" mentality is taught and cultivated in the black community - and the Democrats work hard to preserve those racial envy so as to forward their agenda. The gov't would like us all to dumb down and be "Welfare queens" so they can control the population more efficiently.
Consider this quote:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship." (Source unconfirmed.)
So....Where do you think we are in this process?

Voters went to the polls to get their promised REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH and FREE HEALTHCARE. What they're getting is taxes, taxes, and more taxes on the job-creators. (Don't even get me started on the Cap and Trade racket.) Those
businesses cannot afford to stay in business now, or will be outsourcing those jobs overseas, where labor is cheaper. The people who voted Obama into office will be unemployed, and (shock!) totally dependent on the government. Hmmm. It almost seems deliberate, doesn't it?

Robert said...

Thank you for this post. My experience with Blacks from Africa is that their interest in learning was much more like the universal norm. I do not say, more like whites, because my experiences with Asian, Navajos, Aboriginies, and Middle Easterners, as well as Europeans, show at least to me that education and learning is a common experience for us all. My experience with Black Africans in our Physics Department at University hardly found them lacking, intelligence and education-wise. Is it perhaps that we have created in the Black American subculture the excuse not to excel, not to strive, not to contribute, but to only take?

Jay said...

Someone expressed belief in a genetic difference in intelligence between blacks and whites.

I personally don't for one moment believe that such a thing. Or at least, I don't believe that any such difference, if any exists, is significant.

And from what I've read, this is shown by studies. Black kids adopted by white families nearly match the white kids from white families in IQ tests. What little difference remains can easily be explained in terms of influences in societal and cultural expectations, and the influence of other kids with the same color of skin. I've no doubt black kids raised in white families want to fit in with other black kids.

That means dumbing yourself down.

Now, having said all of that, practically speaking, I've found differences between black people and white people.

It's all in attitude.

I grew up with an ideal notion that all people ought to be and basically are equal. I truly believed black people and white people were all the same.

Then I went into business for myself. And my eyes were opened.

I live in an area with a very small percentage of black people.

I'm nice to all my customers, but I've also always been especially careful to be nice to black customers (I'm white) because... why? No desire to give any offense or be thought of as having any negative racial attitude.

So... after a while... I realized that even though maybe 3% to 5% of my customers are black, black customers were causing nearly as many real problems for me as white customers.

An enlightening example is the couple who made a definite appointment with me at their house. I went to their house, nobody there. After about 15 minutes, I reached one of them at their cell phone. "Oh, I'll be right there."

I waited another half hour.

Finally, after 45 minutes of waiting when nobody ever showed up and not being able to recontact the customer by cell phone, I left. I simply can't spend my entire day waiting for no-shows.

A while later (I can't recall whether it was that day or the next), I got an anonymous call on my cell phone cussing me out in the most vile of language, in a very clear "black" accent.

These were the only black customers I'd dealt with recently.

Now to be fair, I can think of a white customer who was every bit as ugly. And I have black customers whom I love, who are wonderful people, as good as gold.

But the problem is this: why do black customers cause nearly as many problems as white customers, when fewer than 5% of my customers are black, when 95% of my customers are white, and when I've done everything possible to treat all customers - but especially black customers - with respect and royal care?

It's attitudinal, and it's just disproportionate.

Anonymous said...

Depressing post, but I have seen a lot of what was described. I have experience teaching, but only to military, so limited to 17 and up. I never saw this type of thing in my classes, but students like those described would never have made it that far.
I have, however, seen it in members of my own family. I have seen it in some of the neighborhoods I have lived in. I even saw it in college.
I have only found one thing in common every time.
Welfare.
It doesn't matter what form of welfare, it only seems to matter how much. The more people rely on it, the more drained they seem. There is no drive to succeed. It seems to me to be the worst form of slavery. And the ones caught in it resent the ones who provide the welfare. In a way I guess it dehumanizes them.
Other comments mentioned the difference between blacks here, and those coming here from other places. The difference is still welfare. In most other places in the world, there is none. You make it, or not, on your own. That often translates into success here.
It is not just blacks. I see the same thing reflected in every race. Some are just newer to welfare than others.
I have often considered teaching, but I'm getting old, not sure how long I would last.
I think that I would try to find a way to restore their self-esteem. Not by telling them that it's OK that they can't learn, but by making them earn it.

Anonymous said...

This IS the way Black kids are EVERYWHERE. Carribean people are different, American Blacks alkways have this "I am getting screwed and I can't excell " attitude.
The town I live in was all White when I moved here. it is becoming Black. I will move out when I can.
Black schools are always insane zoos.
Diversity and equality are lies. Blacks are not capable of living in a civilized manner. The few that can fir into society are the Freaks.

Anonymous said...

I was a substitute teacher for years as well as a History teacher for many years as well throughout Dade county. I worked in nearly every middle school and high school in the district. I won't tell you my race, I am neither Black nor White, but one thing I can tell you with absolute certainty is that the level of control and my ability to teach in ANY given class was in direct proportion to the ratio of Black students I had. If the class was 10% Black, just minor problems. 30% Black, things became increasingly difficult. 50% or greater and I suddenly felt as though I was a correctional officer rather than a teacher and I spent most of my time policing the classroom.

And I MUST point out here that the normal excuses that we are fed to try and explain these differences did NOT apply in my experiences. I might teach a class of poor Hispanics and the response from my students would be GREAT when compared to the Black students in the same school and in the same socioeconomic class. I became somewhat of an independent researcher over my years of teaching and I am absolutely convinced that the only differences that can attribute to this clear correlation were racial, since all other variables could be accounted for. As unpleasant of a conclusion as that might be for anyone to face, I think Blacks need to face this FACT more than anyone else. Their finger pointing will do NOTHING to address this issue. And for once they need to look WITHIN, rather than to simply blame the White man or the system.

For what it's worth.

A. Kahn

fitness training new orleans said...

I taught several years. The first couple of years I was very aware of the race of my students. One year around Thanksgiving a student came up to me and said, "You know I am the only white girl in class". I looked up and saw that she was right. I smiled. It was a revelation to me that I was unaware of the the race of my students. I was not blind. Some are tall, some are light, others dark, some wear glasses - I could see all that. What was different was that it was not uppermost in my mind when dealing with them. I was dealing with who they were not what their physical attributes were or what the sterotype was.

Architect said...

This can all be summed up in a few words: blacks have low intelligence, little empathy and less discipline.

Consider yourselves lucky that American blacks have a substantial intermingling of white DNA. African blacks are almost another, lesser species in their brute savagery.

Alexandra said...

I'm glad someone has the guts to tell the truth!

I am white with a little bit of Cherokee ancestry. I was in a gifted program in junior high school. All I saw were whites and Jews--there were no blacks in the program at my school. I can only remember one other girl in the program; the rest were boys.

The races are not all equal. Affirmative Action seems to be a way of tacitly acknowledging this. But your garden-variety lefty will say it's because otherwise blacks wouldn't have opportunities. Please. I'm all for equal opportunity--but I am not for forcing equal outcome!

To anyone complaining about stereotypes--I and others have found that at least 80% of the time, people do conform to their associated stereotypes!

We can't be afraid of being called "racist." Just let it bounce off. Anyone who plays the race card has issues--they are just trying to use their race to get what they want. They act like spoiled children.

After high school I enrolled in an administrative assistant course. I graduated with a 3.9 GPA and was the first student in that program, I was told, to have earned all A's. I was also the only white student in that particular session--everyone else was black.

(BTW the "women's movement" was not needed. I am a traditionalist and I can see that the feminist movement has just wreaked havoc on the family. Just thought I'd throw that in.)

Anonymous said...

"I have always believed that as a people, Europeans considering themselves superior and civil, should have the wisdom to at least attempted to share their "superiority" in the same way that teachers should share their superior knowledge with their students instead of berating them."

It is impossible to share anything, whether a "civil" "superior" European teacher with "superior knowledge" (to use your terminology) or anyone else, when the students' refusal to sit and be quiet creates a such a din, it is impossible to be heard.

Creators of racket and chaos deserved to be berated.
Those who practice self-control deserve praise.

Anonymous said...

Experience and thus real and pragmatic truth is of the essence.

I am from the only white (Caucasian) tribe of Africa.

Our earliest real experiences with blacks taught us that white survival and civilization will only be achieved if each racial group is allowed the freedom to rule itself and each living according to its own choices and way of life.

This however was found to be “racist” and a “human rights abuse” as:
The product of white culture is civilization with accountable government, quality people, brick houses, infra-structure, cars, trains and plains, industrialization, jobs, education, abundance, long and prosperous lives etc…
Where as,
The product of black culture is savage dictatorship with massive corruption, quantity people, mud huts, no infra-structure, walk or run on foot, subsistence farming, no education, poverty, short and miserable lives to the weak and the moderates and short but parasitically rich lives for the criminally powerful and connected few, etc…

This the rich white liberals found to be grossly unfair. Therefore while they are getting even richer, they devised laws, systems and approaches, to force the middle class white majorities of the world to embrace the in embraceable and to subsidize these black masses’ “need” to be as prosperous as whites, without the need for blacks to take on the same tasks, responsibilities or accountability.
The liberals just made it “fashionable” human rights to attach 50 plus black parasites to each white productive member of society…

Further the liberal white idiots decided that all peoples are the same and must be intermixed. As segregation became as wrong and “sinful” as “racism” and peoples’ and individuals’ right of freedom of expression, especially regarding race truths, and freedom of association were curtailed by unnatural laws, it became abundantly clear that this forced multi-culti experiment is dismally failing.

The white races are infected with false guilt towards blacks, because they are taught and brainwashed to believe that blacks are disadvantaged and savage because of white racism. At the same time laws are made to prohibit whites from discussing their own demise and to ridicule any and all whites that break from their mass media brainwashed state and see their demise rushing towards them. The white races’ education are being dumbed down, as white schools must now cater for blacks as well and if the curricula are not dumbed down, +-90% of blacks will fail. And that would be a sure sign of white racism, wouldn’t it…!?

The +- 10% of blacks who can compete with the white average, does not bother anyone. However as the majority of society or a race determines the “norm” neither the black 10% nor the whites as a whole is safe in such intermixed society.


IT IS TIME FOR EVERY FAIR AND BALANCED HUMAN BEING TO ACCEPT THAT ONE CAN ONLY HAVE WHAT ONE CAN EARN!

We do not allow blind, or crippled people in the national baseball or basketball team…
We do not force brilliant athletes to run with 50 kg sandbags on their backs so that fat and unfit couch potatoes can stand a chance to win an Olympic medal in a race against them…
We do not ignore or purposefully overlook the fact that locking up a few testosterone raging criminally inclined men with one beautiful young 14-year-old girl might lead to rape or gang rape…

Yet we bind all these handicaps to our own white youths.
We handicap their education and future.
We handicap their safety and security.
We handicap all their human rights.
We handicap their future, prosperity and happiness.
We even handicap their right to keep on breeding a pure version of their own kind!

All this we do in the name of “human rights”,
Trying to give to another kind,
The advantageous of our kind,
At the cost of our kind,
And destroying our kind,
And the advantageous achieved.

Marty Nemko said...

A couple of the comments incorrectly implied that I wrote the essay. I merely reposted it. And when I taught in a largely African-American middle school, while my experiences were indeed challenging, they were not as extreme as those reported by the author.

I plan, soon, to take the time to carefully read the comments, reflect on my knowledge of what works in education and attitude change, and write a post proposing what I would do to try to reduce the black-white/Asian achievement gap.

But for now, I welcome your benevolently derived comments, especially when they include your thoughts on how the gap can be reduced or eliminated.

Beth said...

To all the ignorant people blathering on about how black kids can't learn, take a look at the American Indian Charter School in Oakland and tell me again that miniority kids can't excel when properly motivated.

That school is number 5 in California as far as test scores go.

The only difference is that the school doesn't put up with any of the behavioral nonsense described above. Here is part of their school code.

"Our staff does not subscribe to the back swamp logic of minority students as victims. We will plow through such cornfield philosophy with common sense and hard work!

The staff of AIPCS does not preach or subscribe to the demagoguery of tolerance. Anyone who does not follow our rules will be sent packing with their rags and bags!

Squawkers, multicultural specialists, self-esteem experts, panhandlers, drug dealers, and
those snapping turtles who refuse to put forth their best effort will be booted out.

Boot-licking or self-promoting is not allowed by any politician who enters our classrooms.
Politicians should beware: teachers are on duty!

We do not believe standardized tests discriminate against students because of their
color. Could it be many of them have not been adequately prepared to take those tests?

The staff does not allow students to wear hats, gold chains, or ear-bobs in the building."

Most of our public schools in California could benefit from their approach.

And to the racist idiots (black and white) out there....my grandkids are half black and have been raised to be decent, hardworking US CITIZENS, not card carrying members a racial or ethnic group.

Teddy Roosevelt once warned that the only thing that could destroy this country was if we turned into a tangle of squabbling nationalities fighting each other for political power.

It's time to think of each other as Americans FIRST and FOREMOST.

As Erich Fromm (a Jewish psychologist who survived the Holocaust) said....there are two races, decent people and indecent people. God knows there are enough of the latter in each race and ethnic group to be an embarassment to us all.

Let's bring back the good old fashioned idea of shaming people for bad behavior. It my day, if you called someone a "no account" it was a big deal.

Cultural pressure has been supporting bad behavior for too long, time to turn it in our favor.

Anonymous said...

Having grown up in a black section of town I can reflect back on this story. The black kids, in my school, did best when they had a strict teacher. Back then it was legal for a teacher to strike children, and we all towed the line at certain grade levels. Some were strict, some were not.
At the time I understood everything, but now its different.
Most of those kids I went to school with are Dead, or in prison. One or two went on to college and made a life.

Anonymous said...

Very interesting essay, and I thank Marty for having the courage to post it.

The whole black underclass issue is one that's been bothering me a lot. It's very difficult not to save yourself the time and just steer clear of blacks in general, and if it can't be avoided, to keep the interaction as short and sweet as possible.

The contact almost invariably isn't worth the effort.

It's possible many are badly brought up, if they're brought up at all; others may not be well educated (and probably don't give a damn); some might just be mentally slow.

But I can't figure out why, no matter how nice you are (maybe that's taken as a sign of weakness), far too many blacks have this attitude - like a hatred of whites. They say and do things that no one white could get away with without getting fired.

This might just be a racist rant, except that there are relatively few blacks in the country, and there almost always is a PROBLEM when there's contact. How can a small percentage of the population be behind so much of the strife?

I don't dislike blacks. I don't dislike anyone for the color of their skin. But I will say that a sensible approach is CAUTION, and do everything possible to avoid contact. Give them a wide berth.

Your life will be a lot better and more pleasant for minimizing interaction. (and isn't it sad I have to say this? but isn't it even sadder that it's TRUE?)

Donat said...

I'm from Baltimore. There used to be some technic highschools with great reps until the 60s, when they became mostly black. Then they just became lousy black schools. No school that has become predominantly black has maintained a good academic reputation. Black professors who have been honest, have written about the apathy towards learning anything, not too different from Mr. Jackson's findings, except that these were college students and I would have thought were in school because they wanted to be.

Those people who say it's all "culture" and "we" (doubtless meaning whites) have "created" this black "culture" really need to re-read the article. There were white kids as low economically as the blacks, who were not very good academically. They still fell within a low normal range of what we are used to in white behavior. There have been raucus, poorly motivated white school kids for centuries. They just don't characterize the culture. They are not the norm, they are the exception. In PG county Maryland, the average income is one of the higher in the entire country.It is mostly black and many of them work in government jobs. The classrooms are no better, as a front-page article in the Washington Post shows. What the black principle goes through just to maintain order....no serious student could learn well in such an environment.
As for the Africans...I've know some that really are intelligent and capable of a high level of abstract and idealistic thinking, but they represent a tiny percentage of the total African population. This is a Continent where rape of the most ferocious kind (5 years with gunshot wounds in the vagina) is endemic. Where men who perpetrate it say they would rape family members if the "magic" required it. There are documentaries on this subject that you will never see on PBS. There are good people there, but the black population is possessed of a superstition and violence that we in this country (or almost anywhere else) cannot comprehend. This is a continent that had functioning, comfortable universities for blacks in places now called Zimbabwe and Sierra Leone. Former missionary school students recall their schooling fondly and say that blacks have since destroyed both the buildings and the educational system.
Sub-Saharan Africans never developed writing or even the wheel. There is no tradition of book learning or of abstract, high-level thinking. The closest might be some madrassas in Muslim areas. Out of a billion people you'll find a few bright ones just as you'll find a few Germans with rhythmn. But Africans left to their own devices do not create, or even maintain, civilization as we know it.

Alexandra said...

The gap CANNOT be closed. To say that it can be closed is to say that everyone's equal. No, we are not all equal!

There is a huge gap between me and my own sister! It cannot be closed due to how she is and how I am. I was in a gifted class, she was in special education. We were raised the same. She gets jealous of me, but she's going to have to learn to deal with it.

It's like trying to teach trigonometry to your average two-year-old because you think two-year-olds can be on the same level as twenty-year-olds. It just cannot be done!

No matter how much money is thrown at it, the gap can't be closed. Period. And I don't say this from a white supremacist standpoint, I say this from facts and observation.

Just hang it up. You can't change lead into gold.

Beth said...

"African blacks are almost another, lesser species in their brute savagery."

Oh really?

Let's see......Nazi Germany attempting to exterminate the lesser races, the killing fields of Cambodia, the massive slaughter of the Hindus by Muslim invaders, the rape of Nanking by the Japanese, the charming raiding habits of the Vikings, and so on ad infinitum.

Anyone with a minimal knowledge of history knows just how brutal human beings can be as a species, irrespective of race.

You, sir or madam, are an ignoramous.

Marty Nemko said...

Conservative, often very conservative perspectives have dominated the comments on this post. So I want here to issue a particular invitation to more liberal voices. My goal is to encourage a truly diverse conversation about how to close the achievement gap. Usually, such discussions have been overwhelmed by liberal perspectives. In this one, it has been the opposite. As I've perhaps too often said, I believe the best solutions come from considering the full range of benevolently developed ideas.

Beth said...

So you are saying that conservative voices are the ones saying blacks are incapable achievement?

I'd say it was the liberal voices, who seem to think that black students present some kind of racial "special problem".

You are just as biased as some of the commentators.

Conservatives believe that everyone deserves a chance to succeed through education and hard work.

The American Indian school in Oakland that has reached great achievements in education for "minority" students is conservative in its values.
They don't tolerate misbehavior in their school, and they do just fine.

You instill the values of self discipline, family, education, thrift, and hard work in ANY child and they will do well in life.

When the black community no longer has a 70% out of wedlock birth rate, when strong familes are the norm, when achievement is valued, when being on welfare is considered shameful, when working hard in school isn't considered to be "white" (and yes a friend's daughter was systematically harrassed at her school for just that reason), when wussy public school educators DEMAND that students behave themselves properly, then the problem will be solved.

It isn't rocket science for crying out loud.

Anonymous said...

I have been a teacher in an inner-city school and my experiences unfortunately jibe with those of Mr.Jackson (the author of the piece). It's not clear what constructive approach can be advocated as it seems just about everything has been tried -- and shown not to work. One possible dispiriting conclusion is that African-Americans are wired differently; perhaps they differ in some fundamental sense not only from Whites but from Mexicans, Native Americans, and Asians. If we go along with this conclusion for a moment, the policy implications are staggering. We would be talking again of segregated schooling. Yet I do not see a viable alternative at the moment. And incidentally, we see de facto segregated schooling across swathes of the USA.

Marty Nemko said...

Beth, I labeled those comments as "conservative," because they place all responsibility for the problem on the students and none on the larger society. Liberals generally place more blame for the achievement gap on what the schools and larger society are doing and not doing.

Anonymous said...

This is in parts:
Part One

I will share an experience I had with my Fresh Air son to came to my family every summer from Harlem. I will call him D.

Culture shock is putting it mildly but it was not negative because D gladly fell right into the atmosphere of our family. His running commentary on the difference between his life and the people in Harlem while he was living with us was heart breaking.

He'd throw back his head and close his eyes with a big smile on his face and I'd ask him what he's thinking. He would explain it's not thinking; it's smelling. He is smelling pine trees not garabage cooking in the sun.

Anonymous said...

Part 2

I prepared meals for him; family meals he was not served at home. He exercised every day and was worn out at night. At home he could not fall asleep. His grandmother would not let him out to play because of "mean people."

We had a pool and in order for him to hang with the big boys in the deep end, he had to learn to swim and tread water. His big brothers took turns teaching him to swim so he could play ball in the deep end. Once D looked at the eldest and asked him why he does not hit. D said noone was nice like that in Harlem. My son said, "You are." He denied it.

Anyone in the family who saw he needed to learn something, taught him. This was his life in the summer. Playing and learning - day in and day out.

I taught him to read and one of his favorite activities was sitting by the pond out back early in the morning and reading books with me and a cup of choclate. My husband taught the math facts by playing math games ater dinner. . It was serious; they played for money, so he had to learn fast.

Anonymous said...

Part 3


He loved his life with us and he wanted to stay. We would have taken him but he had a grandma and younger brother who loved him in Harlem.

When he was twelve I called him in the Spring and he told me he was not coming that summer. I asked him why and he did not want to say. So I had him put his grandmother on the phone and she asked him so I could hear the answer indirectly. What I heard was "you white." He did not usually talk "Black" with me.

He gave me a heads up at the end of his last summer with me. He said he was under pressure in Harlem for acting white. During this race conversation, he did not look me in the eyes. I said that we have to stay together, college will be here before he knows it and Dad has a plan for that. Nothing...

I never heard from D again. Harlem won. I called to speak to his grandmother after the summer was over, but the phone was disconnected.

I am not sorry or resentful towards him; I don't name the race thing that spoiled our routine as the meaning of him.

The removal of D from the Harlem culture and enviornment was central to his progress which points out to me that the Black inner city culture, as it has evolved since the 60's in the care of the radical left, is not serving the children.

The Black and White cultural excuses (expressed by the Black racialist up above) for the cultural failure of the inner city is a lie. Multiculturalism is a leftist invention to replace the American melting pot culture and they gave American Black inner city people the cultural gutter. They all vote Democrat so they can get "free" stuff - socialism - that is the point. You have to be kept stupid and small to expect so little.

These kids are Americans - it is time we treat them and expect them to act and be like Americans - from the time they are babies. If that is "acting white" like constitutional freedom is "white"; it's time we take the race lable off of it and just name it American.

We have to tell the excuse makers; the political, academic and professional race hustlers, who do their best to keep Blacks in a separate racist gutter to stop and we have to remove their self annointed race authority. Just because they are Black, does not mean they get to own and abuse the Black tribe with their left wing drive for power, stupidity and self interest. Since segregation died, Whites got free from the Left. It is time to set Blacks free, too. Classical American liberal ideals is the way to get back on track! Time for the "New Left" to go the way of the segregationists they replaced!

Levi said...

Mr. Nemko
Unfortunatly there is no "liberal" solution that will solve this problem. This is because of the flawed premise that we are all genetically the same. We are not.

When you accept that there are differences in the races, then the answer is simple.

Seperate but EQUAL. Why is this concept so horrible?

Look at the performance of our schools compared to the rest of the world since desegregation.
If in fact blacks learn different than whites/asians/whomever, then how can one group succeed while the other is present? Why should teachers have to use two different forms of teaching for the same subject matter? What are the white kids supposed to do while teacher has to switch to her "black" teaching style?

The problem is liberals dont want equal rights, They want equal RESULTS. This is impossible, because we are all different.

Marty Nemko said...

A reader wrote a private comment to me, which I so agree with that I want to state it here.

He said that it's one thing to describe your experiences and then suggest ways the situation might be ameliorated. But it's another to, after describing experiences, to claim it's hopeless--that it's a waste of time and money trying to improve the situation. That's what, for me, crosses the line, into hate speech.

Anonymous said...

Like it or not, the differences in culture are obvious and absolute. I live in a county where whites, as of our last census, make up 47% of the population-blacks are roughly 17%-Hispanics are 17%-and the rest are diverse. Blacks are arrested nearly 2-1 over nearly every other ethnic group---I know this because I have worked in law enforcement for 10 years. I wish these statistics were not true, but they are. Blacks think every enforcement of the law that directly affects them is racially motivated. They are arrested because of their color and not their guilt. That this begins while they are young and in school is no surprise at all. They are their own worst enemies.

Beth said...

"because they place all responsibility for the problem on the students and none on the larger society"

Thanks for the clarification.
However, I don't agree that conservatives ses it as solely an individual responsibility issue. Some more reading on the conservative philosophy may be in order?

This is a multifacted problem-from the individual to the community at large.

The PARENTS of these children have failed to provide them with a proper upbringing.

The KIDS have failed themselves by foolishly buying into a cultural ideal that is destroying them, and by dragging down anyone who tries to escape that toxic culture.

The SCHOOLS have failed to apply high standards and strict discipline from grade school on. You can bet if bad behavior wasn't tolerated starting in elementary school, many of these kids wouldn't be the basket cases they are now. I am shocked that a student felt safe threating a teacher, and that there were no repercussions....and after reading about LAUSD teaching experiences I can see that teachers get NO SUPPORT from administrators for dealing with discipline problems.

SOCIETY AT LARGE has failed by undermining the nuclear family, fostering an entitlement culture, and failing to use social pressure to penalize antisocial behavior.
It is failing by not providing alternatives to students who want to escape educational hellholes (e.g. witness the DC voucher program that is going to be scrapped by the current administration in order to placate entrenched educational interests).

All these factors need to be addressed.

Stephen said...

As a white male who moved to the Mississippi Delta to teach black kids, I witnessed much of what Mr. Jackson writes about. Yet, I am appalled. It is obvious that he had contempt for his black students, and I'm sure they knew it. These are not the words of anyone who has any business teaching America's youth.

My experience in the Delta was very difficult. Like Jackson, I faced a situation where apathy, violence, and irrational behavior ran rampant. Everyday students entered a learning environment riddled with internal and external distractions. However, I cannot accept the picture that Jackson paints. My room was extremely diverse - and I don't mean racially (all of them were black). I had nerds, suck-ups, jocks, class clowns, musicians, bullies, book worms, thugs, etc. Not all of them worked hard for me all the time, but they all cared because they knew I cared for them. They didn't want to disappoint me. In my final year at the school, 13 of my 29 students tested into the honors program for the following year. They worked their butts off for me and they were rewarded with a chance to have a better learning environment, a better education, and a potentially better future. There were about five students that were in danger of failing my class, and they stayed after school everyday the second half of the year to get help. True, I had to chase some of them down from time to time, but they did the work and all of them passed (One of them earned a B his final quarter- his first ever). I had meaningful relationships with all of my students that extended beyond my classroom walls.

There were fights in my classroom. There was occasionally disorder. There was frustration from both me and my students. I had to deal with pregnancy, drugs, and weapons at one point or another. They didn't always like me, and God knows I didn't like all of them all the time. However, they were my kids and it was my responsibility to give them everything I had.

There is a huge achievement gap in our educational system. However, the root cause is not race as Jackson would have you believe. It is a culture of poverty that is prevalent in minority school districts. The essay hints at this by talking about their, at times, distorted world view. I recommend a book entitled "A Framework for Understanding Poverty" by Ruby K. Payne. My black students lived in a different world than I did. They came from homes where education was not valued. They had parents that made terrible decisions and, if present, taught them lessons that ran counter to our middle-class value structure. They had terrible teachers who came out of the same educational system that we're criticizing. And then they'd go home to neighborhoods where survival is a greater concern than homework.

I highly doubt Jackson ever visited the home or neighborhood of any of his black students to see this. He said himself that he had no meaningful relationship with any of his black students. I'm guessing that a big part of the problem in his classroom was himself. Students need a reason to care.

Marty, you want to encourage "real" dialogue on the issue, but I don't see a one-sided and obviously close-minded essay written out of frustration and anger to be helpful. The reality is that our school system is in crisis. It is a complex issue and race belongs in the dialogue, but we need to understand that race is not the problem. Bad teachers, bad parents, and bad cultural norms in poverty stricken areas are problems. It saddens me that Jackson's experience in a black school brought him to the conclusions that it did, but I think it was irresponsible of him to publish an essay of such stereotypical hyperbole.

Anonymous said...

After all the slavery and Jim Crow laws the whites still continue to abuse the blacks. The most invidious present form is so called "affirmative action". Blacks are told that they are equal and human. This theory is shattered by the collision with reality.
Just because the African Americans attain a set of pidgin English-like words does not them an equal make.
In steps the government, and housing, jobs, college degrees are then allotted.
Look up whatever happened to the proverbial 40 acres and a mule program utilization.
Nowadays, adjusted to inflation, give the African tourists in America an Escalade Cadillac with 24" shiny rims, and $50,000 cash a month.

I think we all know what the wonderful results will be. The sacred bond with the effort and reward must never ever be broken. The government "thinks" that propping the Africans up will allow them to catch up.
In my 40 years of experience with the Africans, majority of them are not capable of comprehending the concept of effort and reward correlation.

No less of a humanitarian than Albert Schweitzer, Nobel Peace Prize winner said after a life amongst the noble prototypes of mankind:
"I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all white men that have lived here must learn and know;
that these individuals are a sub-race; they have neither the
intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or share in any of the functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try and bring them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status; white, the superior, and they the inferior, for whenever a white man seeks to
live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour him, and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing relationship or for any benefit to this people let white men from anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa remember that you must continually retain the status; you the master, and they inferior,
like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will devour you; they will destroy you."

Anonymous said...

I have to say that after reading the comments on this page, what really scares me is this utterance of the term "hate speech", as if merely speaking one's mind constitutes a crime. This is a slippery slope into the bowels of a tyranny that western civilization has spent centuries attempting to drag it's self out of.

If we allow unpopular opinions to become ILLEGAL opinions, then we are no better than all those despotic regimes around the world that we decry so loudly over ill treatment of their own citizens.

Regardless of how much an opinion hurts to hear, we must allow it to be spoken and heard, lest we do our Founding Fathers a dis-service they would have branded as unAmerican.

One last thing: If anyone on here thinks for a second that this subject would be discussed on a blog frequented mainly by blacks without subsequent anti white racial epithets and threats of violence towards whites tossed about like so much ordinary conversational fodder, they're deluding themselves and are the epitome of naivete.

Anonymous said...

I am in awe at the ignorance of Mr. Jackson. I am a female who teaches students who are from a lower socio-economic area. I do very well with discipline. The key is mutual respect and seeing through many facades. Most students are hiding troubled homelives. His rantings reveal a less than adequate understanding of dialects. He also does not see the wonderful opportunity of educating students who obviously need to understand the complex world around them. I am so glad that he has found a suitable audience. He really missed an opportunity to join a racist organization and wear a white sheet. He should use an appropriate vocabulary. Haven't we adopted better terms than black, white, and Mexican? I grieve for a man that is that ignorant. I hope he retires soon. I hope he avoids transfering his racist and sexist views. I have taught for 21 years, and I love teaching different ethnicities. I abhor ignorance from all sectors.

Anonymous said...

None of these posts examines the RELATIONSHIP between blacks and whites – which is formed by a mutually interlocking set of pathologies that reinforce one another in a feedback loop.

There will be no progress until this perverted relationship is analyzed and exposed.

1) racial differences are real, and there was never any evidence that all races had the same cognitive abilities, either quantitatively or qualitatively, nor the same temperament, the same language ability the same capacity for empathy or cooperation, etc..

2) Whites are committed to the fiction of racial equality because it is the most straightforward and decent solution to designing a society where different races can live in harmony.

3) The current framework simultaneously a) treats blacks as though they were mentally inferior (affirmative action, special protected status), while at the same time b) immediately destroying any white person who says out loud that blacks tend to be mentally limited in comparison to whites.

4) This means that the United States is living in a state of enforced schizophrenia.

5) With a few encouraging exceptions, most blacks cannot compete in a white society.

6) This leaves them with the option of extorting the system for special protected status and special benefits, but does not give them the tools to catch up cognitively.

7) Blacks do sincerely hate whites, but not because whites abuse them. (Whites endure shocking levels of black-on-white violence while at the same time spending billions trying to lift blacks up our own level. This is NOT how racists behave.) Blacks hate whites because they feel inferior, because they are dependent on us.

8) An honest discussion of race cannot exclude the possibility that evolution has favored higher mental development in one race over another – which is what Charles Darwin said and believed.

9) Until the censorship ban is lifted on discussions concerning the biological, physical, physiological, mental, sexual, etc. differences between the human races, we will to tread water without progress as we've done for the past half-century.

10) Most importantly of all, European Americans (for that is what we are) must assert our group identity, our collective and civil rights, and our pride in our heritage. This is not racism, nor white supremacy, but instead a simple precondition for survival.

11) Whites are a SMALL and rapidly dwindling MINORITY of the world's population, and we are rapidly being pushed into minority status in Europe and in North America.

12) In order for European style civilization to survive, Europeans will have to survive as a strong, proud community.

13) Creating the most advanced, the most sophisticated, the most free societies in the history the world is nothing to be ashamed of.

14) Finally, if whites/Europeans do not start having adequate numbers of children, we will go extinct no matter what other factors are in play.

Anonymous said...

The author of this article, this teacher, does not seem like he really wanted to teach.
He seems so immersed in his own racist ideals that he is not even trying. I went to a predominately black school and experienced a few of the things he described, speaking out in class, some students having difficulty with the material etc. But not to this degree, no teacher I’ve ever had would have accepted this behavior described by Mr. Jackson. Nor would a teacher simply give up if he was not getting through to a particular student. I’ve had and seen some dedicated teachers in my time and they were of all races.

Misbehaving students does not only fall on one race it applies to every race all over the world. I cannot imagine the students I went to school with speaking in that manner, how in the world did they make it through each grade if they could not articulately complete a sentence? I was given every opportunity to succeed and took advantage of them. And I am not a rarity, it was common. All of my family members went to predominately black schools and they are succeeding in their given field, as well as the students I went to school with. This article seems to me a least to perpetuate a way of thinking, not bring about change, not bring about deep thinking, not even a way to bring about understanding, but a racist man giving his racist views.

Anonymous said...

"SOCIETY AT LARGE has failed by undermining the nuclear family, fostering an entitlement culture, and failing to use social pressure to penalize antisocial behavior. Etc."

No, Beth, "society" has not failed. Liberal politicians that insist in using our school kids as guinea pigs in their cockamamie social engineering schemes have failed.

Unforch, voters are too stupid to understand this, and don't vote these morons out of office. Just this past November, they stupidly voted in a whole bunch of these libtards.

Keep on doing what you've been doing; keep on getting what you're getting.

Anonymous said...

You guys are blinding yourselves.
We have, through scientific methods, found genetic differences between races that cause one to be more violent, or intelligent than another.

We are too politically correct to implant measures to address such genetic differences despite the fact that implanting such measures might be the only way to achieve true equality.

There are reasons why Africans that have yet to experience western influence have no written language, technology, and live in dwellings that even a beaver could build.

I've been in schools all over the place. USA, Canada, Australia, and South Korea. Guess what race of kids, in every one of these countries, cause the most trouble?
Blacks.

Now, some of you're blaming this on poverty, etc. Although finance might have some sort of an influence, when seeing a recent analysis of SAT scores based on income and race, you'll start to believe otherwise. In fact, according to statistics, on average black children who come from $100k+ incomes score LESS than white children from $20k incomes.

America SHOULD revamp its educational system to address the genetic inferiority of certain minorities. It has worked wonders for White and Asian students because the system was meant for genetically superior races.

Perhaps a better idea would be to establish a separate system of education, but what are the odds of that happening in these politically correct states?

Anonymous said...

In the 1980’s I spent a year working as a substitute teacher at public schools in a major East Coast city, an experience that allowed me to see a spectrum of schools, ranging from decent to intolerable. The really bad schools were always predominately black – similar to what Mr. Jackson describes. The others were far more manageable with some attempt at academics; these were schools in which there was a sizable white or Asian minority. Teachers, mostly white, were essentially baby sitters making good pay but highly stressed out. In one school the principal begged me to return. “Just keep them from hurting themselves” he implored. At another school the elevator operator, spotting a new face, commented: “You’re NOT going to have a good day”! When I asked her what she had meant she told me that they had recently employed an ex boxer as a sub. The ex heavyweight couldn’t take it; he resigned after a few days. The elevator operator was right. My middle school students were completely recalcitrant. There was one white girl in that class who was taunted mercilessly by her classmates. I’ll never forget the misery she underwent merely because she was white. These were just a few of many eye opening experiences. All of the schools were acceptable from the perspective of facilities – a reality that convinced me that money is not the issue. Students do not learn more because they have a carpet on the floor or better projectors. They learn when they come to school willing to make the effort and are guided by responsible teachers. The problem is cultural and I have no idea how you change an entire culture while denying its reality. Unfortunately we live a big lie in the US. We talk about ‘diversity’ when we all know that the only way to get ahead, to get out of the ghetto and live a better life, is to adopt the values of the majority. We can’t say that, though, as it goes against the PC grain. Instead we perpetuate a lie which in turn perpetuates an underclass.

Anonymous said...

Why the fixation on education, it has never made anyone more intelligent.
It's wrong to take money from whites and spend it on blacks. Think of all the talented white kids who could have benefited, what a waste, a racist waste of money. As whites become more of a minority it will change, but what a waste.

Anonymous said...

Marty - this guy's claim that the response of some posters who throw their hands in the air and give up is "hate speech" is politically correct nonsense. Who is this guy? The hate thought hallway monitor in the sky?

Unless the person who spoke is filled with hatred for Black people, their comments can not be decribed honestly and correctly as "hate speech". Ideas can be described as stupid or mean, but that requires and argument to justify that opinion.

Hate speech is an orwellian term and smear tatic created by the far left to shut everyone up but them so they can be the self annointed ones. "Oh, I better not say what I think and what I have experienced or someone (the usual suspects) will call me a hate speecher and get me fired; get me beaten up; get me harassed; get me kicked out of school..."

Interesting how the "journalist" contacts you and strikes a tad of fear in your heart and you find yourself trying to prove you are not a racist; just want to talk openly about race. "Getting uppity there whitey? We'll pay you a visit and examine your racial attitudes?" What planet did these authoritarian bimbos come from and how did they steal the title of American liberal!

Marty Nemko said...

As I commented earlier, I have not been in a heavily African-American high school for decades and would welcome teachers at such schools posting a video of their classroom in action. While, of course, the presence of a camcorder will affect the representativeness of what got recorded, I think viewing such videos could be instructive.

Stokely said...

Marty, you mentioned that, because the essay author and many commenters conclude that the situation is hopeless, they "cross[] the line into hate speech." The assumption underlying this is that this particular problem, no matter how severe and thoroughgoing experience has shown it to be, can be solved - that it is not hopeless. For that, I admire your faith in human potential. Is there anything that could make you accept the proposition that the gap is inate and irremediable? Theoretically, assuming you did accept that conclusion, would expressing it still be hate speech? I suspect that a lot of people actually believe just that, whether they know it or not.

Regarding solutions, the only way to level the playing field is to bring higher-achieving students down. I recommend hiring additional faculty to punch all white and asian children in the throat every morning at 8:15 a.m. The resulting inability to concentrate should bring about a rough equivalence in scores and finally salve our white guilt. Everybody's happy!

Marty Nemko said...

In another attempt to avoid commenters'(ahem) black and white statements on this issue, I want to briefly describe my experiences with the two African-Americans who are currently in my life. My friend, Jeffrie, is in my view, unquestionably smart, hard-working, ethical, quiet, and reflective. My engineer on my KGO radio show, Anthony, is just a dream: totally professional yet relaxed, and he works hard to prepare for each show. He and I get the job done while having a great time working with each other--we spend a lot of time during commercials telling each other jokes and just generally having a relaxed good time. While, like the essayist and a number of the commenters, I have had some negative experiences with a disproportionate percentage of blacks, I'd be the first to protest if someone like Jeffrie or Anthony were to be prejudiced against.

I caution all commenters again against making statements about "all" blacks, indeed "all" people of any racial or ethnic group.

Marty Nemko said...

As I've written, when the comments slow down, I plan to reread them all, do some thinking, and propose what I believe would be the wisest approach to the problem. But I know that I do NOT believe the problem is hopeless. I believe more thoughtful, out-of-the-box, potent, yet always ethical approaches are required, which I hope to offer.

Anonymous said...

Let me be blunt. Blacks are, as a group, less intelligent than Whites. Every standardized test used in the last hundred years shows a consistent and statistically significant gap between Blacks at the low end and Whites and Asians at the high end. This intelligence deficit is caused, at least in part, by genetic differences. Therefore, nothing can really ever be done to close this achievement gap.

The Left, however, refuses to accept this reality, and they (and their media allies) will denounce anyone who speaks this truth as a "racist." So no elected official who actually, you know, wants to be elected can say these things. Because of this, we are stuck in a position where all we can do is hope that some miraculous new educational reform or policy will magically change the status quo.

It's not going to happen, folks. Fifty years from now, this racial academic achievement gap will remain. You can try to paper it over with "social promotion" and "Affirmative Action" and a massive infusion of federal monies into "disadvantaged" school districts, but the end result will be the same as it is now.

Yes, there are exceptions. There are exceptions to every rule. But the rule remains.

This isn't the way I want the world to be, but it is an honest reporting of the facts as they stand.

Anonymous said...

The anonymous poster who commented on July 1, 2009 10:00 PM is typical of the left-liberal mindset. Anyone who holds a politically-incorrect opinion on the subject of race (or at least any *White* person who does) is denounced as a "racist" and labeled "ignorant." In fact, the commenter herself uses the term "ignorant" three times in just one paragraph!

"Ignorant" has to be the most overused (and misused) word in the English language today. The word "ignorant" doesn't mean rude, or socially-conservative, or politically-incorrect. The actual meaning of the word is "lacking in knowledge about a subject." It's quite clear that the author of the essay, as a long-time teacher, is not lacking in knowledge about the subject he wrote about. You simply don't like the conclusions he draws from the experiences he's had.

We live in scary times indeed when the act of simply stating an *informed* opinion on a subject - but an opinion that is not popular among the elites - gets one accused of the equivalent of thought-crimes. Then we wonder why White people are so terrified of having an open and honest discussion about race. We are labeled "cowards" by our own government (Attorney General Eric Holder) for not discussing the subject of race, but then we're demonized as hate-mongers when a few of us do stand up and speak our minds. It's a catch-22, that Whites are destined to lose every time, no matter what we do. The entire system is gamed against us.

Anonymous said...

I've been reading the comments and some people have mentioned that if a teacher demands cooperation, he/she will receive it no matter what.

I posted an earlier comment about the fact that I attended inner city schools in Los Angeles growing up, and I can tell you, from personal experience, that all the discipline in the world will not reach some individuals.

There were certain classes that we didn't have a teacher in at all, only substitutes. They'd stick around for two weeks or so until they'd had enough and then they'd leave and another would take their place.

There were teachers who tried to send kids out into the hall or to the principal's office for discipline, only to find them off doing their own thing. I've even seen students threaten substitutes with physical violence. I had an English class in eighth grade where the teacher just put her head down and went to sleep while the whole class did whatever they wanted, give each other tattoos, throw supplies out the window, make out, drink, etc.

The schools I went to were out of control. At the time, I thought it was funny. Today, I wouldn't send my own son to them under penalty of death.

Anonymous said...

That was a scary piece of writing. Considering your demographic trends, I honestly think the United States is a doomed nation.

Anonymous said...

Stephen, it's glaringly obvious that you didn't bother reading all of the essay and instead wanted to jump Mr. Jackson because you quickly perceived his essay to be nothing more than hateful literature. Do you honestly think he decided to teach in this school for a number of years if he truly disliked African Americans? Why would he stay there for so long if this were the case? Could it instead be that he was just too worn down after trying awfully hard to get his students to learn and yet they never did? How do you know that Mr. Jackson was the problem in the classroom when many of the people who've posted comments said that they've had very similar experiences? A lot of comments, and even those by Marty himself, believe that Mr. Jackson was not being inherently racist nor they think that Mr. Jackson immediately give up and decided to paint such a stark picture of black culture because he couldn't truly teach his students. How is it irresponsible of Mr. Jackson for him to publish what he perceives to be his genuine understanding, coming from many years of teaching mind you, and correct assessment of a predominately black school? You can, by all means, offer your opinion, but you're doing no better than what you think Mr. Jackson is doing, that is you're saying his essay is pointless and offers no help in terms of trying to identify the problem associated with schools like this one. Marty himself thinks that reading such experiences, whether they are in fact biased because of some developed racism, are still important in identifying the larger problem with America's public school system in such areas. I truly believe that Mr. Jackson really did try to teach and care about his students, because if that weren't the case then why would he go to such a school or even become a teacher for that matter? I felt this essay was humbling, because so many of us never attended such a school, and we can hopefully prevent this from happening in the near future.

writeratp said...

Dear Mr. Jackson I'm 38 yrs. old and it sounds like things haven't changed a bit since I went to school; and your essay really tells it like it is. I transferred from an all white school where I made A - B honor roll to a all black school my sophomore year of high school.I'd like to mention at both schools I was a Varsity football starter, and at the latter: the only white kid on the
team. Everything in Mr.Jackson's essay is true. every class I had looked like: a none moving section of "Mardi Gra" in the class room. It was impossible to teach let
alone learn in that atmosphere. Someday you would have: 3
guys gambling, different cliques of girls carrying on conversations, multiple cut-ups, the usual bunch that gave the teacher hell for that day, and, believe it or not sleepers. Pretty soon their not going to be able to
find anyone to teach at predominantly black high-schools.
I was never bothered physically because I said before, " I was a varsity football starter, but I seen a lot of kids that were terrified. I think African-American kids need to be sent through some kind of boot-camp type atmosphere before starting High-school to teach them
respect.

Anonymous said...

All I cans say as a white person who attended a predominantly all black school in nyc as a youngster is, "the article is on point and my education ruined by blacks"

bashzilla said...

I don't understand- why does Mr. Jackson assume he deserves respect? It's clear he doesn't respect his class, treating them as a whole or dividing them by gender, so it seems obvious to me that they should respond in turn.
He doesn't do anything when the class gets out of hand, or if he does try to calm the class, he doesn't do enough, which seems to me to signal he's an easy teacher to mess with.
I've been in so many classes like this, I find it much easier to sympathize with the students than the teacher. If he's in over his head, and is aware of that, why does he keep pushing through? If the students have made it clear that they don't respect him enough to believe anything he could teach worth learning, why doesn't he pass the mantle?
I've had so many teachers who believe they can pull a Freedom Writer that this article is, frankly, more embarrassing than inflammatory. As teachers, you're not expected to change our behaviour, you're expected to give us information. Everything else, we'll learn on our own, just like we've done before. No one likes having someone elses' idea of normal shoved down their throats- just ask Mr. Jackson. Grillz and rimz are so bizzare to him he needs to add a side-note, as if the idea is from another planet rather than a different neighborhood.
Maybe if he had laid down ground rules and upheld them, he could have gotten a little more respect.
Or, maybe, if he had been a more capable teacher. I don't think his white students like him any more than his black students did, but they've been taught that it's polite to talk behind someones' back- I'm sure if he borrowed someone's notebook and looked for the nasty caricature of his mole, teeth, or hairstyle, he'd find it.

Anonymous said...

We had a choice in the 60's to go with a constitutional based remedy to bringing racial equality or following the Left's goal of using race to cleanse American culture and end constitutional rule.

The American constitution comes with a culture and that is what we call white. King wanted to expand that culture beyond race. The Left wanted to keep that culture separate and named it "racist". They invented an anti-constiutional and anti-white culture for minorities.

So here we are. It explains all the changes that have been made in education and in law that is outside the ideals the majority set out to acheive with King. Get it back!

Joseph Anthony said...

I also am a white male who teaches in a majority black school. I hate to say it but I think black culture epitomizes failure. Most black students want to grow up to play for the NBA or be a Rap star. Just how realistic is that?Black students who do well as ridiculed for "acting white" by their fellow blacks. I do have a few high achieving blacks but in every single case they usually have a father and mother at home who make them study and are concerned about their education.
Most black students are being raised by their grandmother after their birth mother has fobbed them off so they can continue their irresponsible lifestyle.Children are just a government check to most of these teen black mothers.
Is there racism public schools? What exactly constitutes racism? At lunch students self segregate themselves.Its a matter of choice, not because some evil white racist makes them sit in certain areas among their own people.
Most white males now dress like blacks and listen to Rap music. Interracial dating among the races is increasing if we define interracial dating as white females and black males. I have yet to see a white male date a black female.
Yes, there are some whites who disapprove of interracial dating and stick to their own. Its not the country boys like you might suspect, but those who listen to Heavy Metal or adopt a Gothic lifestyle tend to be the most racially conscious among whites.
But no matter how liberals might think white racism is all prevalent they would be blown away by how black people feel about whites, and how the darker blacks treat the lighter skinned blacks.Blacks cannot take responsibility for their own failures and everything that happens to them is because of white people and racism. I kid you not!That is what they believe! If you want to talk about racism, hatred, bigotry, and intolerance, whites can't hold a torch to blacks!

Anonymous said...

Black people (men, women, and children) make up only about 12% of the USA, which logically makes "crime-age" black men ONLY about 6% or less of the US population (probably more like 3% or 4%), but somehow only 6% or less of the population commits over 52% of all murders, over 32% of all rapes, over 56% of all robberies, and over 34% of all aggravated assaults in the USA.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_43.html

When viewing the stats linked above, be aware that the FBI and USDOJ count Mestizos (the proper ethnic term for most "Mexicans" or "Latinos") as being WHITE, which unfairly raises the reported "white crime rate" much higher than it actually is.

Most Police Departments in the USA also do the same thing. Don't believe me? Check out the Sex Offender page of the Grand Prairie, Texas (a large suburb of Dallas) Police Department. Every Mestizo is categorized as being "white".

http://www.grandprairiepolice.org/sexoffender/75050.htm

Just about every state and local agency does this. Here are some examples from Washington state. Do these guys look white to you???

ml.waspc.org/offender.aspx?pid=292821&name=Garcia,%20Juvencio%20John&address=17xx%20Independence%20RD&city=Outlook%20&zip=98938

ml.waspc.org/offender.aspx?pid=1094963&name=Garcia,%20Israel%20Trevino&address=13xx%20Summerfield%20DR%20SE&city=Lacey%20&zip=98513

Again, this unfair and inaccurate classification of non-whites as being "white" wrongly inflates the "white crime rate", especially "white sex offender rate" FAR HIGHER than it actually is in reality.
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http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/bvvcpr.htm

"Black Americans accounted for 13 percent of the U.S.
population in 2005 ...but were the victims of 49 percent of all homicides. Among single victim-single offender homicides, about 93 percent of black victims were murdered by black offenders."

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/bvvc.htm

"Blacks were victims of an estimated 805,000 nonfatal violent crimes and of about 8,000 homicides in 2005."

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND that 93% of those 8,000 black people killed in 2005 were killed BY OTHER BLACKS.

So it is now shown beyond doubt that the real danger posed to blacks comes from other blacks, and not from "racist whites".

From the US Department of Justice:

http://ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cvusst.htm

Go to the "Victims and Offenders" and download the pdf document for 2005. Then go to table 42. It states:

"Type of crime and race of victim" for "Rape/sexual assault" : White only - Number of single-offender victimizations - 111,490- Percieved Race of Offender - Black - 33.6%."

33.6% of 111,490 is 37,460.

Here are the numbers for black victims of rape and sexual assault:

"Type of crime and race of victim for "Rape/sexual assault" : Black only - Number of single-offender victimizations - 36,620- Percieved Race of Offender - White - 0.0%"

So there you go, plain as day. According to the US Department of Justice, in the year 2005 alone black men raped at least 37,460 white women, and in the same year white men raped less than ten black women.

Therefore, statistically, over 100 white women are being raped every day by black men.

If you add in the rate of rape in African countries (raping babies to "cure" AIDS, etc), the numbers become so astronomical that they approach the innumerable.

Anonymous said...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741

"Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men.
Ross R, Bernstein L, Judd H, Hanisch R, Pike M, Henderson B.

Blacks in the United States have the highest prostate cancer rate in the world and nearly twice that of whites in the United States. The 2:1 black-to-white ratio in prostate cancer rates is already apparent at age 45 years, the age at which the earliest prostate cancer cases occur. This finding suggests that the factor(s) responsible for the difference in rates occurs, or first occurs, early in life. Testosterone has been hypothesized to play a role in the etiology of prostate cancer, because testosterone and its metabolite, dihydrotestosterone, are the principal trophic hormones that regulate growth and function of epithelial prostate tissue. This report gives the results of assays of circulating steroid hormone levels in white and black college students in Los Angeles, CA. Mean testosterone levels in blacks were 19% higher than in whites, and free testosterone levels were 21% higher. Both these differences were statistically significant. Adjustment by analysis of covariance for time of sampling, age, weight, alcohol use, cigarette smoking, and use of prescription drugs somewhat reduced the differences. After these adjustments were made, blacks had a 15% higher testosterone level and a 13% higher free testosterone level. A 15% difference in circulating testosterone levels could readily explain a twofold difference in prostate cancer risk."

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http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

Average Differences
Among Blacks, Whites and Orientals:

Brain Size:

Cranial capacity

Blacks: 1,267
Whites: 1,347
Orientals: 1,364


Cortical neurons (millions)

Blacks: 13,185
Whites: 13,665
Orientals: 13,767

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http://www.anthropogeny.com/A%20New%20Theory%20of%20Sudden%20Infant%20Death%20Syndrome.htm

African women produce more testosterone than white women. This is very difficult to find in current journals. I know of one group of endocrinologists who measured testosterone in African American women and European American women and found much higher levels of testosterone in the African Americans, but did, or would not, publish. The following is the best I could find.

Dada ,O.A., et al., "17 Beta-estradiol, Protesterone and Testosterone in the Normal Menstrual Cycle of Nigerians," (Int J Gynaecol Obstet 1984; 22: 151)
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"Circulating blood levels of estradiol, progesterone and testosterone are reported in 17 normally menstruating Nigerian women. The pattern of secretion and the range of levels of estradiol and progesterone are similar to those reported in other ethnic groups. Testosterone levels were, in general, higher than corresponding values in Caucasian or Asian women, but were of the same order of magnitude as previously reported in Zambian African women."

This corresponds with the findings that testosterone is higher in black men, medium in Asian men, and lowest in white men. See Table II, page 888 in Lancet 1992; 339: 887-889. In a group of college men in the U.S., black men produce significantly more testosterone than white men (Journal of the National Cancer Institute 1986; 76: 45).
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So there you go. Science PROVES that blacks have more testosterone and less cranial capacity/cortical neurons than other races.

High testosterone levels have the well known proven effect of increasing aggressiveness, "macho" behavior, and also causes poor impulse control.

Smaller skulls and less cortical neurons means, unfortunately, less intelligence.

These factors easily explain black criminal behavior. Unfortunately it is almost completely taboo to state scientific facts and put 2 and 2 together.

Anonymous said...

News of the "warrior gene" surfaced recently... funny how they completely left out the racial distribution of this "warrior gene", other than mentioning Maoris. Which race do you think has the most "warrior genes"? I think I can take a pretty informed guess.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090605/sc_livescience/boyswithwarriorgenemorelikelytojoingangs

Boys with 'Warrior Gene' More Likely to Join Gangs

Boys who have a so-called "warrior gene" are more likely to join gangs and also more likely to be among the most violent members and to use weapons, a new study finds.

"While gangs typically have been regarded as a sociological phenomenon, our investigation shows that variants of a specific MAOA gene, known as a 'low-activity 3-repeat allele,' play a significant role," said biosocial criminologist Kevin M. Beaver of Florida State University.

In 2006, the controversial warrior gene was implicated in the violence of the indigenous Maori people in New Zealand, a claim that Maori leaders dismissed.

But it's no surprise that genes would be involved in aggression. Aggression is a primal emotion like many others, experts say, and like cooperation, it is part of human nature, something that's passed down genetically. And almost all mammals are aggressive in some way or another, said Craig Kennedy, professor of special education and pediatrics at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, whose research last year suggested that humans crave violence just like they do sex, food or drugs.

"Previous research has linked low-activity MAOA variants to a wide range of antisocial, even violent, behavior, but our study confirms that these variants can predict gang membership," says Beaver, the Florida State researcher. "Moreover, we found that variants of this gene could distinguish gang members who were markedly more likely to behave violently and use weapons from members who were less likely to do either."

The MAOA gene affects levels of neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin that are related to mood and behavior, and those variants that are related to violence are hereditary, according to a statement from the university.

The new study examined DNA data and lifestyle information drawn from more than 2,500 respondents to the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Beaver and colleagues from Florida State, Iowa State and Saint Louis universities will detail their findings in a forthcoming issue of the journal Comprehensive Psychiatry.

A separate study at Brown University from earlier this year found that individuals with the warrior gene display higher levels of aggression in response to provocation.

Over networked computers, 78 test subjects were asked to cause physical pain to an opponent they believed had taken money from them by administering varying amounts of hot sauce. While the results were not dramatic, low-activity MAOA subjects displayed slightly higher levels of aggression overall, the researchers said.

The Brown University results, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, support previous research suggesting that MAOA influences aggressive behavior, the scientists said.

Michael said...

"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741

"Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men.
Ross R, Bernstein L, Judd H, Hanisch R, Pike M, Henderson B.
....
These factors easily explain black criminal behavior. Unfortunately it is almost completely taboo to state scientific facts and put 2 and 2 together."

(look above for full comment, deleted middle to save length)


The reason two and two were not put together were because there is no reason for them to be. For example, testosterone is known to cause aggression in many species, but the fact that the testosterone is present is what causes the aggression. The is no study backing that and increased testosterone level causes and increased level of aggression.
Increased testosterone levels causes a reducing of a chance of heart attacks and high blood pressure but those effects are negated when the individual is ore likely to drink, smoke, or do something stupid to harm themselves.

Also, I looked at more then one study on the average brain size across races, and none of them correlate with each other. This is because there hasn't been a way to actually measure the size of a brain, or the volume of skull, with out actually cutting someone open and measuring. But going on to explain what I saw, some studies found white males with a bigger brain size, one found white females, several found that black females have a bigger brain size, and some found that black males have a bigger brain size. The fact that these results can not come together, I see that as not being 'scientific proof'

Anonymous said...

"I see that as not being 'scientific proof'"

Perhaps not.

However, in my opinion, when considering all the evidence in those posts, I think the common-sense conclusion is pretty obvious.

I can no longer deny the evidence of my senses and my experiences, or those of people I know, and the conclusions that the science hints at are simply overwhelming.

"All men are created equal" is a political fantasy written down by politicians over 200 years ago in a far less scientific age.

It is easy to see that reality/nature itself is racist and hierarchical.

Gareth said...

I know it's been a few weeks, but I just stumbled upon this essay and thought I had some interesting thoughts to contribute. I recently returned from a month-long trip through South Africa and Namibia, a place in which Mandela's reconciliation has given their race relations a different tone. Our guide, a well-educated colored (in South Africa there are three racial categories, White, Colored, and Black, where one is only considered "black" if they have no mixed heritage whatsoever) told us a story about a group of Black Activists from the United States. He said the activists came and immediately requested a different guide, because he wasn't "African" enough. When he would describe stories of reconciliation (the result of political violence, but the black organizations agreed to let bygones be bygones and ignore the past as they ascended to power) the American blacks were upset that the Africans hadn't sought more "justice". They eventually requested he be taken off their tour, because he wasn't as angry towards the whites on behalf of mother Africa as they thought Africans should be. That, and the fact that no one in the group was considered "black" in South Africa was something they couldn't wrap their minds around. The point is that there is a debased hatred for white culture that has nothing to do with anything; a false separation that comes from fabricated sources like entertainment and inflammatory rhetoric. I'm writing you because a woman I who accompanied me on that trip is leaving to teach at an inner-city West Philadelphia high school this year, and I immediately forwarded this to her. I'm writing you because this sort of essay, how things really are, needs to be heard in order for anything to be done about it. We cannot leave these parts of the country to rot, something must be done to motivate these extreme corners of what has unfortunately become a rapidly growing culture of American anti-intellectualism and laziness. Thanks for your courage in posting this under your name, the only way to combat racism and fear is to confront it head on, not to brush content under the table and pretend it doesn't exist, because people not knowing is what lets these situations flourish.

M Yusuf said...

To be honest, teaching should be about the children only. it is only when teachers fail that they begin to blame parents, culture etc.

How would schools know whether such kids are abused at home or not if they are frightened of the children that much?

I thought people in pedagogy already knew this, but don't you have measures to deal with testosterone fuelled kids?

My local school runs sports sessions early in the mornings to physically prepare the students and they all succumb to the physical pressure proven by their good conduct in classes. It is just a matter of diverting their energy, rather than showering obscenities upon kids and teachers

Anonymous said...

Blacks are indeed less intelligent. Exceptions are acknowledged. But if I were black I'd be doing the same thing by citing examples of my own achievement or that of others. It must suck to be black and smart. You'll always have to prove yourself. You can't blame people for assuming. You can only do your best to distance yourself from those cultural indicators that mark you as an idiot.

Anonymous said...

I could have told you all this and I was just a student in NYC public schools. . . why the attitude that you should be sorry to say these things so bluntly? These are facts that are unpleasant to the blacks who know that they act like animals, and to the apologist whites who desperately cling to the idea that there are no differences between the races. Have no fear of the truth, Mr. Jackson.

marabou said...

Wow, I'm amazed that this teacher dares stand up to black culture. He's risking being labeled as a racist, shunned by both his own and the blak students he abhors. I think what's really shocking, is that this teacher is using his judgment, something we have been effectively trained not to do. All are equal, no one's any different, yada yada. Good on him. It takes courage to say unpopular things. I respect him for going about it in such a reasoned, informed, passionless manner. He's probably right on in his assessment of the problem.

meign said...

Mr Marty, if you're taking the "essay" seriously, you are being fooled by a racist teacher.

I can't believe how racist Americans are from this one post.

maur33n said...

Jackson's article is full of stereotypes and reeks of his own fear and racism.

I went to a mixed race public school. I recall an honors biology class, probably around 7th grade. We were about 30-40% black in a middle-class to well-to-do suburb of Chicago.

We had a stern task master that we all respected. You could sense her genuine caring and what seemed like love for us all.
She became ill for a length of time, and so we had a series of substitute teachers.

Those poor substitute teachers were made mince-meat by the unruliness of the students, similar to the scene Jackson describes. For weeks, until the return of our regular teacher, we went through substitute after substitute.

A similar phenomena happened for one of our male math teachers who had no idea how to gain respect or control the classroom.

I think the common thread is the kids can sense respect and caring. If it isn't there, they don't return it.

I think Jackson is a failure as a teacher. He failed himself and the students. They sensed his failing and weakness and went for the jugular.

He may have eventually reached a truce, but he already gave up that he disdained them.

You failed, Jackson. Your lengthy diatribe about how you did so is evidence. You were frightened, didn't care, and your guilt was thinly veiled with disdain and hatred before you set foot in the classroom. The students pegged you for what you are, and became what you already assumed they were.

Anonymous said...

"I don't dislike blacks. I don't dislike anyone for the color of their skin. But I will say that a sensible approach is CAUTION, and do everything possible to avoid contact. Give them a wide berth."

Funny, because that's exactly what blacks say about your kind. All of you are snakes in a pit.

Anonymous said...

"I tried to explain
there were no blacks in eighteenth century
Britain." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_British#17th-18th_centuries

Read something once in a while.

Anonymous said...

Straight on! I had the mis-fortune of having to go to a predominantly Black school. It was a nightmare that lasted for several years. When I attended high school sadly the whole Rodney King beatings took place and I suffered for it because of the color of my skin.

I'll never send my child to a school that is predominantly black. I would never try to destroy their future like that.

I know how to solve the issue though. I think a change needs to be implemented in the Constitution. If you do not graduate from High school and receive your diploma you are not an American citizen, thus you are not able to become a welfare queen and not be a leech on society.

Anonymous said...

I read this post and brought back some really bad memories of high school. It actually kind of infuriated me looking back on it on all the things I missed just because of the School District I lived in and realizing for the first time that all those opportunities were lost because of the same reasons that the author had given.

I went to a predominantly black high school near Philadelphia, PA and literally was in fear of my life every day. I hated that school so much and tried desperately to skip school as much as possible due to the drug use and knowing those who carried knives and guns. There were no metal detectors at the doors although there should have been.

Reading I couldn't stop but remember all the beatings I had to endure. I really really hated being called "White Boy" even by those people whom I had known since Kindergarten.

I am so happy now that that horrible time is over now and I would never subject my children to that kind of filth.

From someone who has been there this post is absolutely not made up and is a testament to the author. This is exactly what it is like.

I've read over the other posts and you can call me racist all you want. I wasn't that way until high school. I was taught it by the faculty and students there by their own words and actions.

Anonymous said...

anonymous wrote


R.D. Robinson: I agree with you. If I were a conspiracy theorist (which I'm not), I would say this horrible situation could hardly have occurred without being engineered on purpose. But then the question would become "why?" and I don't think even the most wacko leftist would have wanted the massive, dangerous underclass we have now



desegregation/racial integration is NOT leftist, but rightwing. Whenever you mix in different races and cultures into one community, one nation, etc., you get more factions.

The more factions there are, the less unity there is.

The rightwing represents the rich and powerful, the minority of the opulent, as james madison, the father of the constitution said.. That is the true nature of rightism.

The leftwing represents the working class, the majority.


If an idea or policy serves the minority of the opulent, it is a rightwing idea.


If an idea or policy serves the majority, it is a Leftwing idea.

Racial integration serves the rich and powerful by fracturing the unity of the electorate, by decreasing the social capital of a community, by lowering community spirit and trust. When the majority looks around them and see people of another race and culture, where these people were not there years ago, they become mistrustful.
That is a natural human reaction.

James Madison was a rightwing aristocrat who wrote our constitution. He said (in the federalist papers and the constitututional convention notes) that the way to control the masses was to divide and rule them by increasing the number of factions in the voting districts. he did that by increasing the size of the political districts. That was why the federal govt was created by the founding fathers--to disempower the majority by making it hard for them to "unite and discover their common interest" (quote by madison).

The minority of the opulent has found another was to decrease unity--multiculturalism, racial integration, and mass immigration.

The comment above mentioned a conspiracy. It is indeed deliberate, an open conspiracy. Why you ignore it, I cannot say.

Divide et impera, that is what has brought us the conditions depicted in the essay above.


Nemko wrote:


Today, the opposite seems true--conservative ideas have a hard time finding a major public voice. Sure there's Fox News and much talk radio but the media outlets with the largest mindshare, especially among the intellengsia (e.g NPR, NY Times, etc) publish little conservative thought except as a whipping boy or straw man



Your statment is both true and untrue.

There is a difference between rightwing social and rightwing economic.

What you call 'rightwing' includes the idea that affirmative action and multiculturalism is bad. I would call it leftwing instead, for the reasons I give in my post above.

However, let us accept your definition.

Yes, using your definition, rightwing ideas about SOCIAL issues are not given much credence by the establishment.

However, rightwing ECONOMIC ideas rule the roost.

Where is progressive taxation, single payer, european style workers benefits, etc? These ideas are rarely mentioned by the so called liberal establishment, and given token mention.

Of course, as I have already pointed out, the social aspect of american leftism is actually rightwing in its effect in that it makes it hard for the voters to unite, to form any solidarity.

Madison wrote in a letter to jefferson that the way to run america was to use the 'divide et impera' tactic.


The upper class just keeps on dividing and ruling. But now they use multiculturalism, racial integration, etc.

As evidence of my "far out,' waky theories, please consider the small nations of western europe. Unless very recently, they were almost entirely white. And they have been the MOST leftist of any nations on earth--ever! Soviet Russia and China were never leftist. Just because there is not private property does not they were run for the benefit of the masses.


-cryofan

Anonymous said...

Pretty surprised by these responses. The author is clearly both racist and incapable of contextualizing what he saw.

Anonymous said...

As a teacher what I SEE is a teacher who lacked classroom management. Kids speaking loudly and out of turn, getting up and dancing, are all the symptoms and signs of a teacher who is not adequately controlling his or her classroom. Yes, the kids were acting out but YOU (the teacher) didn't stop it. When students understand that there are acceptable and unacceptable behaviors THEY WILL conform and respond. Because this teacher was afraid or reluctant too be the authority in the classroom he felt he could do nothing about it and just marked it up to cultural differences that fit his preconceived notions. Since this was ”just the way they are” he thought it couldn’t be changed. The mistake this teacher made was forgetting his title “TEACHER” which means you “teach” the students not only the subject, but also unfortunately, how the should act. STOP BEING AFRAID AND TEACH! I am glad you have left the school you were doing more harm than good.