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Gay Mosque to Open in Paris, Address to Be Secret

Ludovic Mohammed Zahed, a gay Muslim, plans to open Europe's first gay-friendly mosque in Paris. (Courtesy Ludovic Mohammed Zahed)

Ludovic Mohammed Zahed is braced for controversy, maybe even worse. A gay Muslim and an expert on the Koran, Zahed plans to open Europe's first gay-friendly mosque in Paris at the end of this month. He calls it a place of shelter as well as a place of worship.​

"We need to have a safe space for people who do not feel comfortable and at ease in normal mosques," Zahed told ABC News. "There are transgender people who fear aggression, women who do not want to wear head scarf or sit in the back of the mosque. This project gives hope back to many believers in my community."​

"Common prayer, practiced in an egalitarian setting and without any form of gender-based discrimination, is one of the pillars supporting the proposed reforms of our progressive representation of Islam," he said.​

"The Unity" mosque will initially operate in a Buddhist temple in a neighborhood in eastern Paris, and will emphasize "accepting everyone as equally God's creation....I hope straight men will pray together with gay men and women, everyone," said Zahed who declines to make public the address of the venue, due to security concerns.​

Zahed's mosque will honor some Islamic traditions, like Friday prayers (Jumu'ah), and the Muslim marriage contract (Nikah) to bless same-sex marriage. It will also perform funeral rites (Janazah) for those who have been denied a traditional Islamic funeral based on Sharia law because of their sexual orientation.​

"It is a safe place to worship," said Zahed, where no religious questions will go unaddressed. "Our imams will talk on any taboo topic." Zahed will be one of three prayer leaders, along with a female French convert to Islam and another man who is being trained.​

"Current Islamic ethics may condemn this sexual orientation," Zahed said, "but in fact nothing in Islam or the Koran forbids homosexuality. Indeed, for centuries, Muslims did not consider homosexuality to be the supreme abomination that they do today."​

According to Zahed, renowned Muslim poets wrote odes glorifying handsome boys. Some were interpreted as metaphors for loving God, but some also seem to reference gay intimate relations. Zahed argues that homosexuality became criminalized only under European colonialism.​

"From the 10th to the 14th century, Muslim society used to be a far richer mix of the legal, the rational and the mystic," said Zahed. "They looked at sexuality as one aspect of life's many possibilities, and they saw in it the hope for spiritual insight."​

"Even if this mosque is newfound freedom," said Nasser, an openly-gay Parisian, "gays will remain in a closet, worried about being ostracized at their local schwarma stand."​

While it would be the first gay mosque in Paris, there are believed to be 21 other gay mosques sprinkled through the U.S., Canada and South Africa.​

In countries where traditional Islam is dominant, like Egypt and Iran, punishment against homosexual activity, not to mention advocacy for gay rights, is very severe.​

Zahed's Parisian mosque will be inspired by the work of Muslims for Progressive Values in North America, who practice common prayer, in an egalitarian setting and without any form of gender-based discrimination.​

"We are already working very closely with them. The idea for our Paris mosque comes as a result of our conversations," says Zahed, whose future plans include "a progressive mosque in the UK and then another one in Denmark will follow."​

Zahed believes, if the Prophet Mohamad was alive today, he would marry gay couples. He himself is the first gay man to marry partner in a Muslim ceremony in France. He is an Algerian PhD student writing his thesis on Islam and homosexuality, a subject he also addressed in a book "The Koran and the Flesh."​

He has experienced anti-gay discrimination from Islamic groups, and Islamophobia from members of the French gay community.​

Meanwhile there is a lot of controversy in France regarding both same-sex marriages and Islamic influence and practices. Ten days ago, tens of thousands protesters took to the streets against government's plan to legalize same-sex marriage, while several weeks ago, right wing protesters stormed an unfinished mosque to show disapproval of France's large community of Muslim immigrants.​

lol. The conqueror becomes the conquered. Always the way.

The Illuminati

The French deserve what they have right now. When they imported the towel heads to France for cheap agrarian labour they didn't have the forsight to know that those types won't stay in the fields all that long.
After '62 they threw open the doors to the Algerian arabs while making it somewhat difficult on the French Algerians who were coming back. Curiously enough the average Frenchman was lazy and so the F-A or "Pieds noirs" represent a disproportionate percentage of the wealthy of France.

Team Zissou
Cheap labor? Don't they just stew in the suburbs and soak up welfare?

It's not cheap labour. It's extra consumers. They worked out they could stimulate the economy by bringing in more consumers and printing extra cash. It works in the short term if you bring in the extra consumers to move it around. The value of money does not immediately turn to dust.

You guys simply must get up to date on this concept. It's not cheap labour that fuels Europe's economies but instant consumers. It dose of course keep the wage low by bringing in more workers but this is a secondary affect. Their main plan is bubble creation, with the creators getting rich at the countries expense.


I realize this may be hard to grasp for Americans where a lot of the immigration is about cheap labour but make no mistake, it's more about instant consumers. Here's an example....

Everyone watches tv in Australia. It doesn't matter what it is, at night the idiot box goes on. The different stations could compete with each other by making better shows. But why mess around with all that hard work and expense when you can just import a larger market? Rather than making real shows here, the media spends it's time promoting multiculturalism and condemning anyone who's anti-immigration as a racist. Believe it or not this makes sense from their profit squeezing point of view.

The Rambler

Why is that guy so ugly?

The Illuminati

In particular, the very labour intensive grape and wine industries needed cheap labour. At the time a lot of France's agriculture needed it. It's why France was offering 10 year contracts to North Africans and Middle Eastern types to come to France for 10 years and then allow them to go home covered by a small pension and full medical benefits for life.
I learned of this while I lived in France and there was an article on some lucky Lebanese dude who got a procedure (for some reason vasectomy comes to mind) and it turned out that it was his third. Of course it was all fraud because only in our dreams would a camel jockey actually get his nuts cut off.
Several years ago Algeria was offering French citizens 100 year leases on 250 hectare parcels for farming as their own people are too stupid/lazy to do it themselves.