Joseph de Maistre and Catholic traditionalism -- not necessarily compatible

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I've noticed that Maistre tended toward fideism myself -- he appears to have had more in common with Hamann or Pascal than Aquinas. IIRC, Isaiah Berlin made the same connection.
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Cortes continues the tradition of de Maistre by endorsing the situational dictatorship - "just" usurpation of the throne from incompetent traditionalists in order to restrain the onslaught of liberalism and communism. Schmitt actually regards Cortes as the more radical of the two, contending that Cortes's thought portends the rise of atheistic/agnostic reaction in the form of Maurras and others.

But I agree to a certain extent. Maistre was tilting toward a new type of conservatism and reaction that eschewed the dusty and feeble attempts of the old order to preserve what was surely a decadent and stagnant culture. Maistre's vitality was a stark contrast to the sickly and infirm ancien regime and probably stemmed from the fact that he was not of the ancien regime but rather of a recently ennobled middle class family.

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This is a bit dishonest because IIRC, De Maistre turned away from the liberal enthusiasm of his youth after seeing the horrors of the Revolution. He didn't endorse liberalism while simultaneously calling for the Restoration; these were distinct ideological phases he went through.

As Roland noted, his reactionary turn was rooted in a perceived cataclysm (the French Revolution) which upended the traditional orientation and necessitated extraordinary measures to restore a semblance of order. Being a pure "Thomist" would presuppose a society composed of private feudal lords under the sovereignty of a Papacy that possessed not only spiritual authority but primacy on questions of war and peace.

Feudal/medieval society was severely crippled by absolutism and the rise of the State and then totally annihilated by the French Revolution; it isn't De Maistre's fault for understanding this in contrast to the less practical thinkers of his era. Complaining that De Maistre was a "librul" because he didn't endorse an anachronistic political orientation-- it's the same as modern spergs who decry the Fascists and National Socialists as "libruls" because they didn't throw their weight behind impotent aristocrats.

Nobody is claiming he was a liberal. If anything the article is negative toward Thomists and tradcats, not de Maistre.

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I got the impression that it was written by a "real" tradcat scolding his compatriots for idolizing an Enlightenment intellectual.

Who is the author 'modestinus'?

Also rate his midface on a scale of 1 to 10.

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