Is Israel a characteristically Jewish entity?

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Bob Dylan Roof

While going through some of the NS-era legal papers on international law, I noticed the common theme of the aspatial or unspatial Jew. The theme is mentioned by both the non-racial Großräume ("large spaces" of political influence analogous to the Monroe Doctrine promulgated by the United States in the 19th-century) thinkers like Schmitt, as well as the racial and Lebensr äume thinkers like Werner Daitz:

Only the Jew forms an exception. Different from all other peoples of the earth, the Jew does not own - and does not want to own - his own living space. The biological law within him only permits him to live as a parasite in the living spaces of other peoples. He thrives all the more in them as they become vitally weak or enter into rot either through him or due to any other reason. It is for this reason that the Jew is linked with every kind of imperialism, which is indeed always directed towards the decomposition of natural orders of life; the Jew is interested in imperialism, is its most loyal companion and advocate and encourages it wherever he can.​
- Werner Daitz, "Echte und unechte Großräume", 1941​

Jews are still promoting the imperialism of their host countries, but for the ultimate goal of preserving Israel, a fixed, eternally Jewish and spatial habitat. Does the existence of Israel overturn these old arguments? Does its existence represent a fundamental change in the Jewish cultural character?

Israel presumably wouldn't survive without a diaspora. Until it can show it can, Zionism was never completed and Israel is just another diaspora country.

A Gleaming Leprosy
It's an attempt, but will it be successful? Someone like Gilad Atzmon, who is able to speak relatively honestly about Jews, could only have been an Israeli, but one man isn't enough. He isn't even an Israeli citizen anymore.
In my opinion, not exactly: Israel still requires the United States to exist, although these days, many countries in the region rely on U.S. for military aid for their existence (take Saudi Arabia: would it be around if the U.S. wasn't also more or less working as its air force, and attacking regime targets in the region?).

In addition, there is the sense that Israel is "real" via a demographic trick: during the 80s and 90s, large numbers of Soviet "Jews" were admitted. These were people with maybe 1 Jewish grandparent, who apparently don't assimilate well, but manage to prop-up the numbers on the Jewish side of the demographic cold war with Israel's Arab citizens.

On the other hand, Israel is a good centering for people in the diaspora who want to feel Jewish, but don't want to change their outfits or start with weird dietary restrictions. It also acts as a good misdirection, since it leads people to believe that the center of Jewish power is somewhere in the Middle East, rather than the United States, and that the problem is "Zionism," rather than Judaism.

I'm not sure what the long-term prognosis for Israel is, however. Historically, these Jewish kingdoms end-up veering toward apocalypticism and attack a superior foe, which results in a long period of destruction and exile. I know the country is becoming less secular overtime, as another main driver of demographic growth is among the Haredim/settlers/other assorted fanatics. They have come close several times to attacking Iran, which I think would be a catastrophic error on their part.