Zizek and Occupy Wall Street

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Niccolo and Donkey
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Pepe Escobar :


Like you said, until there's violence it's all LARPing. They all stress the need for "peaceful" revolution, so nothing will change.


Bomb Wall St. with all the hippies inside.

Once again Zizek capitalizes on a faux dissident faction to basically promote himself and spout some of his trademark meaningless idiocies. The guy's a fucking genius.

Niccolo and Donkey

Also correct.

So with Communism being little more than an embarrassing memory for the radical left, Zizek digs up the egalitarian-humanistic-universalist root of Christianity as the only force that will bring us all together and usher in a New Utopia. Alain de Benoist would agree, after all he famously declared Christianity the "bolshevism of antiquity." Of course the intentions couldn't be farther apart, as de Benoist would argue that this universalist root which originates in Christianity and begets Liberalism and Communism is what makes them such dangerous ideologies.

I'd be inclined to agree.

Bohdan Khmelnytsky

The texts of the bible are so varied and multi-theological that they can be used to say or justify about thing. That's why so many different theologies, denominations and even religions have emerged from the same set of texts.

Even crap like this can be said. It's not entirely wrong, you can take certain streams of thought within the Bible and Christian traditions and reach this conclusion.

But then again you can take that same Bible and various Traditions and theologies and come up with the Patriarchal, anti-egalitarian institution that is the Catholic Church.

Once an ideology becomes institutionalized, as it did with the Catholic Church, then the same rules and behaviors relating to power and it's maintenance apply. I wouldn't call Catholicism, or the Catholic Church, anti-egalitarian because it power structure is hierarchal. Liberalism and Communism both had hierarchal systems with social class and Party bureaucracy respectively. What all three ideologies share is the belief of Man as tabula rasa and as such that their systems could be applied to every culture all over the world.

Bohdan Khmelnytsky
Christianity was institutionalized with a power structure the moment Christ selected disciples. Institution can clearly be seen in Acts.

More important however is that the Scriptures were born out of the Church, not vice versa. The community along with it's Traditions and beliefs came before the Scriptures. The Scriptures were a product of an institution.
I really can't see the point you are trying to make. What exactly do you mean by tabula rasa? If you want to apply tabula rasa anachronisticaly to Christianity then can't we do the same with the Roman Empire? A conquered nation/culture was made to accept a certain pantheon and religious traditions and were put into a political system while still retaining some of their native traditions and language. Non-roman natives found their way into the citizenry and even the senate.
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